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    • SputnikOC3dundefined
      SputnikOC3d @dc42
      last edited by

      @dc42 - et al ... I have also given the motor #s of the users involved here to my contact at LDO motors for him to give to his engineering team to review and to compare their motors to their competitors that are both working and not working as well - to see if they have some insight that might help us all resolve.

      Not sure if that task will bear fruit - and not holding my breath - but hopeful.

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      • carcamerarigundefined
        carcamerarig @ctilley79
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        @ctilley79 said in Missing Steps - Cant Print SpreadCycle StealthChop tuning help:

        @dc42 Not exactly. The issue is that it thumps in all modes even when explicitly setting the driver to spreadcycle using for example M569 P0 D2 after homing. The thumps seem to be slightly less abrupt in spreadcycle, but still enough to cause layer shifts in the OP’s case.

        The thumps occur in stealthchop with no changeover speed, Spreadcycle entirely, and everywhere in between.

        @dc42 I’ve just finished a test print in standalone with M569 S0 V0 at very tame speeds and jerk and the issue persists. I’m happy to bring this setup down to you for you to see for yourself??

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        • fulgundefined
          fulg @Argo
          last edited by fulg

          @argo I can confirm (same as @carcamerarig), the issue persists with M569 ... V0.

          This time there was one interesting variation, instead of a "thump" one of the two motors decided to stop working altogether, so I was suddenly printing diagonally. Then the console in DWC was flooded with "short to ground" errors:

          e587d2a5-5a10-4504-9176-66fad443acf9-image.png

          Interestingly this was a different motor than the one that is always skipping (in my build drivers 5 and 6 are the A and B of CoreXY). Perhaps I could move A and B to another set of drivers.

          I grabbed an M122 dump when this happened in case it's useful:

          === Diagnostics ===
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3beta2 running on Duet 3 Mini5plus Ethernet (standalone mode)
          Board ID: NY57W-W096U-D65J0-40KMU-NP03Z-ZKK2Z
          Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (14 max)
          === RTOS ===
          Static ram: 99720
          Dynamic ram: 108484 of which 176 recycled
          Never used RAM 32468, free system stack 119 words
          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,207) ETHERNET(notifyWait,550) HEAT(delaying,293) CanReceiv(notifyWait,943) CanSender(notifyWait,358) CanClock(delaying,340) TMC(notifyWait,100) MAIN(running,314) IDLE(ready,20) AIN(delaying,260)
          Owned mutexes:
          === Platform ===
          Last reset 01:37:52 ago, cause: software
          Last software reset at 2021-04-07 16:20, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 35540, slot 0
          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
          Error status: 0x00
          Aux0 errors 0,0,0
          Aux1 errors 0,0,0
          Supply voltage: min 0.0, current 23.9, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
          Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/2, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/82/0, gc cycles 0
          Driver 0: position 99200, standstill, SG min/max 0/72, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 40, reads 15989, writes 18, timeouts 274, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x41
          Driver 1: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/100, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 41, reads 16253, writes 19, timeouts 9, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x71
          Driver 2: position 5114, standstill, SG min/max 0/50, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 41, reads 15966, writes 19, timeouts 296, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x71
          Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/60, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 41, reads 16198, writes 19, timeouts 64, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x6f
          Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/48, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 35, reads 16267, writes 13, timeouts 1, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x06
          Driver 5: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/510, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 43, reads 16203, writes 19, timeouts 59, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x6a
          Driver 6: position 0, short-to-ground, standstill, SG min/max 0/510, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 42, reads 16258, writes 19, timeouts 4, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0x01
          Date/time: 2021-04-07 17:58:10
          Cache data hit count 4294967295
          Slowest loop: 125.41ms; fastest: 0.08ms
          === Storage ===
          Free file entries: 9
          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
          SD card longest read time 100.7ms, write time 30.0ms, max retries 0
          === Move ===
          DMs created 83, maxWait 4423638ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
          === MainDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 25385, completed moves 25385, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [3, 1369, 0], CDDA state -1
          === AuxDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
          === Heat ===
          Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
          Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.3
          Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.4
          === GCodes ===
          Segments left: 0
          Movement lock held by null
          HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
          Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
          File is doing "G1 X136.015 Y157.355 E0.04029" in state(s) 0
          USB is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux is idle in state(s) 0
          Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
          Queue is idle in state(s) 0
          LCD is idle in state(s) 0
          SBC is idle in state(s) 0
          Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
          Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
          Code queue is empty.
          === CAN ===
          Messages queued 52892, send timeouts 52889, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 17 (min 17)
          Last cancelled message type 30 dest 127
          === Network ===
          Slowest loop: 179.42ms; fastest: 0.03ms
          Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
          - Ethernet -
          State: active
          Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
          Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 2 0 0
          

          When I restarted the Mini5+ (via Emergency Stop in DWC) the errors stopped and I restarted the print again, this time the usual skipping happened during the very first travel move of the print so I did not have to wait long.

          I have yet to find a particular mode that works. My board is being exchanged via warranty due to an unrelated issue (SD card problems) so I guess we'll see if switching to another board helps; I doubt it will but it's one more data point. 🙂

          Cheers,
          Ben.

          VORON V2 CoreXY + Duet3 Mini5+ Ethernet v1.0 with Mini2+ expansion, VORON V0 CoreXY + Duet2 Maestro

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          • droftartsundefined
            droftarts administrators @fulg
            last edited by

            @fulg @carcamerarig Thanks for the feedback. Can you please post your current config.g and a gcode file that causes the skipping/thumping, so I can replicate this on my test bench, as I'm looking at this today.

            Ian

            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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            • carcamerarigundefined
              carcamerarig @droftarts
              last edited by

              @droftarts

              Shape-Box_0.2mm_PET_MK3S_1h10m.gcode

              Standalone config, sbc config is above.

              ; General preferences
              G90                                         ; Send absolute coordinates...
              M83                                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
              
              ; Network
              M550 P"Duet Caribou 420"                        	; Set machine name
              M552 S1                                     	; Enable network
              ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
              ;M586 P0 S1                                  ; Enable HTTP
              ;M586 P1 S0                                  ; Disable FTP
              ;M586 P2 S0                                  ; Disable Telnet
              M575 P1 S1 B57600							; Panel Due
              
              ; Drive Mappings
              M569 P0.0 S0 V0                             ; Drive 0: X Axis
              M569 P0.1 S0 V0                             ; Drive 1: Y Axis
              M569 P0.2 S0 V0                             ; Drive 2:  Z Axis
              M569 P0.3 S0 V0                             ; Drive 3: E Axis
              M569 P0.4 S0 V0                             ; Drive 4: E1 used for Z1
              
              ; Motor remapping for dual Z and axis Limits
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3				; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
              M671 X-37:287 Y0:0 S4			; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
              
              ; Micrpstepping and Speed
              M350 X32 Y32 E16 Z16 I1                     ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z400.00 E830.00         ; Set steps per mm
              
              ; Speeds, Acceleration and Jerk
              M566 X240.00 Y240.00 Z25.00 E600.00 P1      ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X7500.00 Y7500.00 Z720.00 E1200.00     ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z1200.00 E4000.00     ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              
              ; Motor currents
              M906 X700.00 Y700.00 Z700.00 E700.00 I20    ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in percent X,Y,Z=1000/1.414 E=1400/1.414
              M84 S30                                     ; Set idle timeout
              
              ; Printer geometry
              M208 X0:250 Y-4:215 Z-0.5:410               ; Axis Limits
              M564 H0							            ; allow unhomed movement
              
              ; Endstops for each Axis
              M574 X1 S3								 	; Set endstops controlled by motor load detection
              M574 Y1 S3                               	; Set endstops controlled by motor load detection
              
              ; Stallgaurd Sensitivy
              M915 X S-2 F0 H200 R0		                ; Set X axis Sensitivity  
              M915 Y S-1 F0 H200 R0		                ; Set y axis Sensitivity 
              
              ; Input Shaper
              ;M593 F58.5 P4 S0.2  ; Input Shaping 3.3/3.4
              ;M593 F54.26
              
              ; Z-Probe Super PINDA
              M574 Z1 S2														; Set endstops controlled by probe
              M558 P5 C"^io3.in" I1 H1 F500 T4800 A30 S0.004
              
              ; Mesh Grid 
              M557 X24:221 Y10:195 P8	                         ; Define mesh grid for probing
              
              ; Sheets
              ;G31 P1000 X23 Y5 Z1.730 	                    ; Satin Sheet
              G31 P1000 X23 Y5 Z1.91 	  	                  ; Textured Sheet 
              ;G31 P1000 X23 Y5 Z1.445 					    ; PEI Sheet
              ;G31 P1000 X23 Y5 Z1.445 					    ; PEI Sheet 0.6 nozzle -10 offset
              
              
              ; Heatbed Heaters and Thermistor Bed 
              M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8       ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0 Bed
              M950 H0 C"out0" T0 Q10					                        ; Creates Bed Heater Qnn PWM frequency in Hz. Valid range: 0-65535, default: 500. (optional) 10hz stopped clicking
              M307 H0 R0.273 C345.3 D10.89 S1.00 V23.8						; PID 3.2
              M140 H0										                    ; Bed uses Heater 0
              M143 H0 S120                                                    ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C Bed
              
              ; HotEnd Heaters and Thermistor HotEnd      
              M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4725 C1.19622e-7	       	; define E0 temperature sensor e3d
              M950 H1 C"out1" T1 						                            ; Create HotEnd Heater
              M307 H1 R2.383 C178.5:130.6 D5.32 S1.00 V23.9						; PID
              M143 H1 S285                                                    	; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 285C HotEnd
              M302 S185 R185
              
              ; Fans
              M950 F1 C"out5" Q250				; Creates HOTEND Fan
              M106 P1 T45 S235 H1                 ; HOTEND Fan Settings
              M950 F0 C"out6" Q100				; Creates PARTS COOLING FAN
              M106 P0 H-1                         ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off PARTS COOLING FAN
              
              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                            ; Define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                             ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0                                ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              
              ; StealthCop calibration
              M17
              G4 P150
              G1 X1 Y1 Z1 	
              G4 S2
              M84 ; disable motors
              
              ; Filament Sensor Logic
              M98 P"0:/macros/02_Functions/StartupFilamentSensorCheck"  ; Runout Sensor Logic: Startup with filament = runout sensor active   Startup without filament = autoload active
              
              
              
              
              
              
              
              
              
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              • fulgundefined
                fulg @droftarts
                last edited by

                @droftarts Here is my config.g.

                ; Configuration file for Duet3 Mini5+ with Mini2+ expansion (firmware version 3.2.2 or newer)
                ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                
                ; General preferences
                M111 S0                     ; Debugging off
                G21                         ; Work in millimetres
                G90                         ; Send absolute coordinates...
                M83                         ; ...but relative extruder moves
                
                M669 K1                     ; Select CoreXY mode
                M564 S1 H1                  ; Forbid axis movements when not homed
                M918 P2 R6 C30 E-4 F200000  ; Fysetc 12864 display
                
                ; Network
                M550 PVoron V2.015          ; Set machine name
                M552 S1                     ; Enable network
                M586 P0 S1                  ; Enable HTTP (for DWC)
                M586 P1 S1                  ; Enable FTP (for remote backups)
                M586 P2 S0                  ; Disable Telnet
                
                ; --- Z Drive map ---
                ;     _______
                ;    | 1 | 2 |
                ;    | ----- |
                ;    | 0 | 3 |
                ;     -------
                ;      front
                ;
                ; (looking at the printer from the top)
                
                ; Drive directions
                M569 P0 S1 ; Z0
                M569 P1 S0 ; Z1
                M569 P2 S1 ; Z2
                M569 P3 S0 ; Z3
                M569 P4 S0 ; Extruder
                M569 P5 S1 ; A
                M569 P6 S0 ; B    TODO I wired one of them backwards of course :(
                
                ; Motor mapping and steps per mm
                M584 X5 Y6 Z0:1:2:3 E4
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1         ; Use 1/16 microstepping with interpolation everywhere
                ;M92 X80 Y80 Z400               ; Set XYZ steps per mm (1.8deg motors)
                M92 X160 Y160 Z800              ; Set XYZ steps per mm (0.9deg motors)
                M92 E406                        ; Set Extruder steps per mm
                
                ; Drive currents
                M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1200 E600     ; XYZ and E current
                M906 I30                        ; Idle current percentage
                M84 S120                        ; Idle timeout
                
                ; Accelerations and speed
                M98 P"/macros/print_scripts/speed_printing.g"
                
                ; Axis travel limits
                M208 X-9 Y0 Z0 S1               ; Set axis minima
                M208 X312 Y325 Z275 S0          ; Set axis maxima
                
                ; Endstops
                M574 X2 S1 P"^!io1.in"          ; Xmax endstop on hall effect board
                M574 Y2 S1 P"^!io2.in"          ; Ymax endstop on hall effect board
                M574 Z0 P"nil"                  ; No Z endstop
                
                ; Z probes
                M558 K0 P8 C"^io6.in" T18000 F120 H5 A5 S0.01 R0.2
                G31 K0 P500 X0 Y25 Z2.0             ; Don't really care about inductive probe Z offset
                M558 K1 P8 C"^io5.in" T18000 F60 H2 A10 S0.005 R0.2
                G31 K1 P500 X0 Y0 Z-0.07            ; Z switch offset (if positive, greater value = lower nozzle. if negative, more negative = higher nozzle)
                
                ; Bed leveling
                M671 X-65:-65:365:365 Y0:395:395:0 S20      ; Define Z belts locations (Front_Left, Back_Left, Back_Right, Front_Right)
                M557 X25:275 Y25:275 S25                    ; Define bed mesh grid (inductive probe, positions include the Y offset!)
                
                ; Bed heater (dual thermistor setup)
                M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 A"Bed Heater"  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0 (heater sensor)
                M308 S2 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 A"Bed Plate"   ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp1 (mic6 sensor)
                M950 H0 C"out0" T2 Q10                                      ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 2 (mic6 sensor). Set PWM frequency to 10Hz
                M140 P0 H0                                                  ; Mark heater H0 as bed heater (for DWC)
                M143 H0 P1 T0 A2 S115 C0                                    ; Regulate (A2) bed heater (H0) to have pad sensor (T0) below 115°C. Use Heater monitor 1 for it
                M143 H0 P2 T0 A1 S125 C0                                    ; Shut off (A1) bed heater (H0) if pad sensor (T0) exceeds 125°C. Use Heater monitor 2 for it
                M143 H0 S110                                                ; Set bed heater max temperature to 110°C, use implict monitor 0 which is implicitly configured for heater fault
                M307 H0 B0 S0.6                                             ; disable bang-bang mode and set PWM to 60% to avoid warping
                
                ; Hotend heater
                M308 S1 A"Hotend" P"temp2" Y"pt1000"                        ; Hotend is 2-wire PT1000 on pin temp2
                M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                          ; Hotend heater is connected to out1
                M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                            ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                M143 H1 S350                                                ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C
                
                ; MCU sensors
                ;M308 S3 Y"mcu-temp" A"MCU"
                ;M308 S4 Y"drivers" A"Duet Drivers"
                ;M308 S5 Y"drivers-duex" A"Duex Drivers"
                
                ; Todo: Chamber temperature sensor via io port (needs RRF3.3b1+)
                ;M308 S10 P"io4.out+io4.in" Y"dht21" A"Chamber Temp[C]"      ; Set DHT21 for chamber temp
                
                ; Fans
                M950 F0 C"out3" Q250                ; Create fan 0 (hotend) on pin out3 and set its frequency
                M106 P0 S1 H1 T50 C"Hotend"         ; Configure fan 0: Thermostatic control is turned on, based on sensor #1
                M950 F1 C"out4" Q250                ; Create fan 1 (cooling) on pin out4 and set its frequency
                M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Cooling"           ; Configure fan 1: Thermostatic control is turned off
                M950 F2 C"out5" Q30                 ; Create fan 2 (electronics bay) on pin out5 and set its frequency
                ;M106 P2 S0.25 H1 T50 C"Bay"         ; Run the fans at 25% if the hotend is over 50C
                M106 P2 S0 H-1 C"Bay"               ; (temporary manual setup)
                M950 F3 C"out6" Q30                 ; Create fan 3 (chamber) on pin out6 and set its frequency
                M106 P3 S1 H2 T50 C"Chamber"        ; Configure fan 3: Thermostatic control is turned on, based on sensor #2 (mic6 temp)
                ;M106 P3 S0 H-1 C"Chamber"           ; (temporary manual setup)
                
                ; LEDs
                M950 F4 C"out2"                     ; Create fan 4 (top leds) on pin out2
                M106 P4 S255 B0 H-1 C"Top Lights"
                
                ; Tools
                M563 P0 D0 H1 F1                    ; Define tool 0 using fan 1 for M106
                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                     ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                G10 P0 R0 S0                        ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                
                ; Misc
                ;M572 D0 S0.075                      ; Pressure Advance
                M572 D0 S0.01                       ; Pressure Advance
                M592 D0 A0.015 B0.0012 L0.2         ; Non-linear extrusion
                M376 H10                            ; Fade mesh out compensation over 10mm Z
                
                ; DAA tuning (you will need to change this for your slicer)
                ;M593 F26.6                          ; Cura 4.5 stock profile @ 40mm/s outer printing speed
                M593 F42.5                          ; PrusaSlicer @ 40mm/s outer perimeter
                
                M80                                 ; turn on PSU & mains voltage
                
                ; set default LCD color
                M150 X2 R100 U80 B255 P250 S3
                
                M501                                ; load config-override.g
                T0                                  ; select tool 0
                

                I've also attached my complete config + macros and a sample gcode file here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wte9u7omvpuif29/AABRm7ewZEVrzH9UWG4pw3mta?dl=0

                VORON V2 CoreXY + Duet3 Mini5+ Ethernet v1.0 with Mini2+ expansion, VORON V0 CoreXY + Duet2 Maestro

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                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators @fulg
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                  @fulg @carcamerarig Thanks, both! Just finishing off wiring up the 5+ in place of my Duet WiFi board (one of the early white PCB beta boards, it's been on the printer a loooong time!)

                  Ian

                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators
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                    @fulg @carcamerarig I've set up my printer (basically something like a Prusa i3 bedslinger) with settings as close to yours as possible. The basic motor settings are:

                    ; Drives
                    M569 P0.0 S1 V0                                     ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.1 S0 V0                                     ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.2 S1 V0                                     ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.3 S0 V0                                     ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.4 S1 V0                                     ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                    M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.4 E0.3                              ; set drive mapping
                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E743.50                  ; set steps per mm
                    M566 X100.00 Y100.00 Z12.00 E300.00                ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                    M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z600.00 E3600.00            ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                    M201 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z20.00 E600.00                ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    M906 X1000 Y1000 Z800 E450 I30                          ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                    M84 S30                                               ; Set idle timeout
                    

                    I ran a quick test of 100 iterations at full speed (F18000 or 300mm/s) going from X0 Y0 to X200 to Y200 and back. No problems. I then printed (air print, no nozzle or bed heating, no extrusion, but all motors moving) @carcamerarig gcode file, which is a cube and a cylinder. Travel moves are at 80mm/s, where I think you were seeing the problem, but these were okay for me, too.

                    One thing I've noticed; both of you have your M566 (max instantaneous speed change/jerk) set very low on X and Y. I usually have mine set at the default from the configuration tool, which I regard as pretty conservative, which is:
                    M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E300.00 (ignore Z and E)
                    fulg: M566 X100 Y100 Z30 E4000
                    carcamerarig: M566 X240.00 Y240.00 Z25.00 E600.00 P1
                    The effect of this is that it may slow down on curves. The sinusoidal fill seemed slow on the air print, but otherwise shouldn't particularly matter.

                    My only other current observation is that I have a v0.5 Mini 5+. What are your board versions?

                    I'll should have a little time over the coming days to run some more tests, to try and get it to skip. Any suggestions welcome!

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                    • carcamerarigundefined
                      carcamerarig @droftarts
                      last edited by

                      @droftarts
                      Not sure on board version I have a Board ID: Z9NZN-A296U-D65J0-40KM4-LY03Z-ZPQPD can you tell from that? Purchased direct from Roland in Jan 21.

                      In my SBC setup I was at M566 X600 Y600 Ill try at 900 now and report back but I fear it will make it worse...

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                      • carcamerarigundefined
                        carcamerarig @droftarts
                        last edited by

                        @droftarts Can you give me your AirPrint gcode file?

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @carcamerarig
                          last edited by

                          @carcamerarig said in Missing Steps - Cant Print SpreadCycle StealthChop tuning help:

                          @droftarts Can you give me your AirPrint gcode file?

                          Sorry, away from machine now. I just commented out the heater commands in the Gcode file, sent M302 P1 to allow cold extrusion, and unloaded filament. It just fits on my 200x200 bed!

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • droftartsundefined
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                            @carcamerarig said in Missing Steps - Cant Print SpreadCycle StealthChop tuning help:

                            Not sure on board version

                            It’s printed on the back of the PCB.

                            Ian

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                            • fulgundefined
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                              @droftarts My Mini5+ was a v1.0. I say "was" because it is no longer in my hands, I sent it back for warranty exchange for an unrelated problem. I am getting a replacement in a few days.

                              The speeds are quite low in order to try and work around this issue, my usual speeds were 6x higher (M566 X600 Y600 Z60 E8000). I saw it with print speeds of 40mm/s and travel speeds of 100mm/s and those very slow instant speeds. Similarly my motor currents are higher than what I usually run.

                              I see that you are running 1.8° motors (80 steps/mm!), as far as I know everyone affected here is running 0.9° motors.

                              Cheers,
                              Ben.

                              VORON V2 CoreXY + Duet3 Mini5+ Ethernet v1.0 with Mini2+ expansion, VORON V0 CoreXY + Duet2 Maestro

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                                @fulg said in Missing Steps - Cant Print SpreadCycle StealthChop tuning help:

                                I see that you are running 1.8° motors

                                Yes, you’re quite right, I wanted to get a baseline, though @carcamerarig reported the same issue with 1.8 motors. I’ll swap X and Y for 0.9 motors the first chance I have. I don’t have any LDO motors yet, so will have to be Wantai and E3D. Thanks for the info!

                                Ian

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                                • carcamerarigundefined
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                                  @droftarts

                                  Yep its worse with a higher jerk level but at least you can hear it on the videos now as its been difficult to show/hear with the fans running... It literally shakes everything in and on my cabinet.
                                  While setup on SBC mode I found out one or more of the bigger bangs broke my Y motor holder (cracked it), its replaced now with a spare I had but it can't be good for the printer or the bearings...

                                  A mild travel bang

                                  Infill mini bangs

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                                  • carcamerarigundefined
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                                    @droftarts I can still send mine to you, I thought as we discussed my issue is not unique to the 0.9's to rule those out?

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                                    • fulgundefined
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                                      @carcamerarig I am hearing the same bang on my machine when printing as your first video, then there is a rather large layer shift, ruining the print in progress.

                                      I thought you also had 0.9° motors since that was brought up earlier in the thread (sorry for assuming!). So I won't bother installing my old 1.8° motors, maintenance is never fun but it's worse if you do it for no good reason.

                                      I still have my old Duet2+Duex5 boards, those worked great on the same printer!

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                                      • fulgundefined
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                                        @droftarts My motors are from OMC StepperOnline, 17HM19-2004S, running at 24V of course. I have some LDO 0.9° HT steppers on hand now but I have not yet installed them.

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                                        • droftartsundefined
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                                          @fulg I’m using a 12V PSU, so will need to swap that for 24V. Thanks for reminding me!

                                          Ian

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                                          • carcamerarigundefined
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                                            @fulg Correct I was running the LDO 0.9's when I set up the duet for the 1st time, I changed them to the 0.9's from the 1.8's that shipped with the machine with the promise of higher resolution, ive switched back to the original 1.8's to test if its unique to the motors as other have success with the 1.8's. Mine issue is happening on both 0.9 and 1.8.

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