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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by Phaedrux

      Never standstill. Be quicker than the ooze. Quick retraction, quick z moves, quick travel moves, optimized jerk, and jerk policy 1 (M566 P1) to allow jerk between print and non print moves. At that point pressure advance. Inner walls > outer walls > infill helps to hide them a bit as well.

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      • giostarkundefined
        giostark @jens55
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        @jens55
        ok about what you say for the oscillations.
        For the deposit I'll change also there some settings but there are too much variables for allow me to say something.
        Your blobs are not just blobs for too much deposit , they have also overlap.
        overlap-seam.jpeg
        I'm not skilled enough for tell you to change one parameter in the slicer that will solve the issue.
        For my self I tried to zero more or less all the parameter in Cura and tried to print the cube, than after the inspection of the printed part, I raised or lowered some setting value and reprint. (is enough print just some layers , not the entire cube walls , ugly stuff will be soon visible and you can stop the print)
        The mess is that what is right for layer height 0.3 is not valid for 0.1. (at least on my printer).
        Or what is valid for one speed is not good for faster speed.
        Hope the bunch of suggestion and impression will help you to understand what happen at your printer.

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        • giostarkundefined
          giostark @jens55
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          @jens55
          An example of what I'm saying about the attempts.
          Those two cube have ALL the setting equal apart one , the "line width". With the nozzle 0.6 Cura produce 3 lines for the 2mm wall thickness. Inner and outer wall have regular width BUT the inner line is thicker. Cura is able to produce the part on the left. Horrendous as you can see.
          Moving the line with to 0.5 (always with the 0.6 nozzle) Cura generate 4 lines of 0.5 and come printed the part on the right. Almost perfect.
          So , to say exactly what to do in your case is complicated. But I would be happy to help if possible.
          20210707_173012.jpg

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          • jens55undefined
            jens55 @giostark
            last edited by

            @giostark, wow, I would have never suspected that .... and for that matter I don't understand it ... but there it is in black and white.
            With a line width of 0.6 mm and three lines that is a total of 1.8 mm so Cura 'fills out' the missing 0.2 mm on the inner line. Seems perfectly normal and I would likely spend the next month changing Cura settings to figure out why it does that. There are some settings for filling and thin lines and the like. That still doesn't change my utter disbelief of what is happening ....
            I tend to run line widths of nozzle diameter or slightly larger. Under normal circumstances, with a 0.6 mm nozzle I would likely run 0.7 mm line width. I presume that would result in an inner, an outer and a thin filler line in the middle but that is where this kind of finish would actually make sense.

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            • o_lampeundefined
              o_lampe @jens55
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              @jens55
              line width and part strength go together. If you want strong parts go for wider_than_nozzle width, but Not for outer wall.

              it takes a whole spool of filament to dial in a new printer is what I've learned. Same for a new slicer, probably...

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof
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                @giostark what happens if you set linewidth to 0.65?

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                • giostarkundefined
                  giostark
                  last edited by giostark

                  @oliof
                  More or less same ugly stuff. Not being a multiply of the wall thickness happens blobs and/or gaps. Cura is an amazing program but have several limitation and is necessary to know them for not lose ages in attempts.
                  Probably there are way to compensate all those things but still I have not put in enough time for make the things better.
                  Ex:
                  Same settings apart 2 of them.
                  This conveyor printed at 0.25 layer height and 0.5 (on 0.6 nozzle) come good enough apart the damn seams (I didn't had the right settings because I never printed this part before)
                  20210728_152208.jpg

                  This other part instead come print at 0.3 layer height and 0.65 line width and ugly staff happen (I tried this for speed up the print) .

                  20210729_182457.jpg
                  ugly-lines.jpg

                  Both the part I designed have 4mm wall thickness. So now I can expect that some ugly stuff can happen if the wall are not multiply of the line witdh. Maybe if I would be able to fix the walls will come ugly the infill haha. Such a trap !

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                  • oliofundefined
                    oliof @giostark
                    last edited by

                    @giostark ugly infill is most often not an issue as long as it stays in place and doesn't push onto the walls.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Ultimaker does provide a decent amount of guidance on what their (basic) settings do. https://support.ultimaker.com/hc/en-us/sections/360003548619-Print-settings

                      And there is a plugin that gives even more info as popups within the app.

                      Narrow walls have always been one of it's biggest weaknesses. They do suggest altering the line width such that an even number of lines will fit within the wall. It does a terrible job on it's own. If you don't wnat to set a smaller or larger line width for the entire part you can use modifier meshes to change it for only the sections of the model that require it, but that takes some additional setup.

                      Slic3r has much better gap fill detection. Hopefully the new Cura slicing engine with variable line width will make this a non-issue soon.

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                      • hackinistratorundefined
                        hackinistrator
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                        many times seam bump is generated at the start of the loop .
                        also there is no retraction at every loop end (unless you force it)
                        in those cases i use layer start script that retracts very little at the start of the loop (outer perimeters first)

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @hackinistrator
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                          @hackinistrator Most slicers would have a retract on layer change or retract on travels setting as well to facilitate that.

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