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    • Kwad3D 0undefined
      Kwad3D 0 @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt No confusion. You have nothing positive to add and are only here to argue with the poster. Just trolling. The only one confused here is the guy who can't figure out what I meant when I said Mesh...

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        fcwilt @Kwad3D 0
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        @kwad3d-0 said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

        @fcwilt No confusion. You have nothing positive to add and are only here to argue with the poster. Just trolling. The only one confused here is the guy who can't figure out what I meant when I said Mesh...

        It's hard to help when there is not enough information provided to determine the cause of the problem.

        How about you post your height map image and CSV file along with your config.g file.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          Kwad3D 0 @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt Oh Your still here??? Thought I said you could leave.....

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @Kwad3D 0
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            @kwad3d-0 said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

            @fcwilt Oh Your still here???

            Since you are having troubling solving your problem, I and the rest of us are here to help.

            But you have to let us by providing additional relevant information.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • Kwad3D 0undefined
              Kwad3D 0 @fcwilt
              last edited by Kwad3D 0

              @fcwilt Your not here to help so I will just hang out for a Mod who knows what there talking about and what Im talking about. Like I said earlier.... If you don't know what the word "Mesh" is referring to then you don't have the mental capacity to be of any assistance. However I don't believe this is the case. I think that you know what I referred to and are just playing a childish game to pass some time....

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              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                DIY-O-Sphere @Kwad3D 0
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                @kwad3d-0

                @fcwilt is one of the experienced users who really knows this stuff and spends a lot of time helping. But to help he must first understand what the problem is.
                I can not get such an attitude ...

                Edit:
                Yes and sometimes he is also very accurate about terms. But that is certainly not to bother...

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                • alankilianundefined
                  alankilian @Kwad3D 0
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                  @kwad3d-0

                  • Can you describe what you are doing to probe the shape of the bed? Sometimes there are simple errors in probing that can cause issues and it would be good to know you are doing everything the right way.
                  • Can you post a screenshot of your heightmap after probing? Sometimes that helps see something strange going on.
                  • Can you post your config.g?
                  • Can you describe in a little more detail what problem you are having? It sounds like if you go to Z=0 on the left-side of the bed that the nozzle is very close to the bed, and if you move to the right in the X axis and go to Z=0 that the nozzle is 1mm off the bed. Is that right?
                  • Can you tell us what kind of printer you have?
                  • Can you tell us what version of firmware you have?
                  • Can you tell us what specific Duet board(s) you are using?

                  All those things help you get a quick correct set of things you can do to work towards getting better prints.

                  SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman
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                    I can a spot a wind up when I see one. OP joined 28th at 17:30 then spent the next hour and half insulting anyone who tried to help. If this is such a big recurring problem, with multiple duet boards, how come we haven't seen any posts apart from this single thread?

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @deckingman
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                      @deckingman said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

                      I can a spot a wind up when I see one.

                      What is a "wind up"?

                      I'm not familiar with that phrase.

                      Thanks.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

                        @deckingman said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

                        I can a spot a wind up when I see one.

                        What is a "wind up"?

                        I'm not familiar with that phrase.

                        Thanks.

                        Frederick

                        That is very difficult to explain to a non- native English speaker. A wind up can mean many things but In this context, the best explanation I can give is - to say or do something with the deliberate and sole purpose of annoying or angering other people.

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @deckingman
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                          @deckingman said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

                          That is very difficult to explain to a non- native English speaker. A wind up can mean many things but In this context, the best explanation I can give is - to say or do something with the deliberate and sole purpose of annoying or angering other people.

                          That sounds spot on.

                          Thanks for the explanation.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • droftartsundefined
                            droftarts administrators
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                            @kwad3d-0 post your config.g and response to M115, please. And what layout the printer is, eg Cartesian bedslinger, CoreXY, etc. I’d expect the probe is offset in Y axis, and your X carriage rotates around the x axis as it goes from one end to the other, causing probe to lift or drop relative to the nozzle.

                            Ian

                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                            • Kwad3D 0undefined
                              Kwad3D 0 @droftarts
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                              Thanks for responding. Its a Core XY machine. The leveling performs just fine besides being off on one side consistently. I can see the Z motors adjusting as it progresses across the bed. The amount of lift is consistent enough that all I have to do after finishing a probe is reach down and clock the one Z motor one click and the desired affect is achieved. There may be a simpler solution as the only reason I have to re level is due to the bed being heavier then normal and drooping when the motors go to idle. So is it possible to simply adjust the idle current to provide more support to the bed between prints? Then the minor inconvenience of manually adjusting the one Z axis would only have to be done after the printer is shut down... which is only like once a month.

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @Kwad3D 0
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                                  @kwad3d-0 please, config.g, response to M115, and ideally the macro you’re running for bed levelling. Without these a useful answer is all but impossible. See points mentioned here https://forum.duet3d.com/post/53522

                                  Ian

                                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                  • Kwad3D 0undefined
                                    Kwad3D 0 @droftarts
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                                    @droftarts Ok I will provide that info soon as I get back to the Office. Regardless I would like to increase the idle strength of the motors to prevent the bed droop between prints. Is that possible?

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                                    • alankilianundefined
                                      alankilian @Kwad3D 0
                                      last edited by alankilian

                                      @kwad3d-0 said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

                                      I would like to increase the idle strength of the motors to prevent the bed droop between prints. Is that possible?

                                      Yes, it's possible.

                                      Check the "I" parameter in your M906 configuration command.

                                      If you post your config.g many of us can help you with that question.

                                      SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                        DIY-O-Sphere @alankilian
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                                        @alankilian
                                        Normally the deactivation of the motors will happen via the endcode of the slicer....

                                        (UTC+1)

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                                        • alankilianundefined
                                          alankilian @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                          @diy-o-sphere said in BL Touch Issues... Again and Again...:

                                          Normally the deactivation of the motors will happen via the endcode of the slicer....

                                          Oh MAN, that's certainly a possibility.

                                          I forgot I removed that from my Simplify3D profile.

                                          Good catch. This is why we're all here.

                                          @Kwad3D-0 You should also post a small but complete GCODE file so we can see the start and stop codes.

                                          SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                          • psychotik2k3undefined
                                            psychotik2k3
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                                            just a dumb question @Kwad3D-0
                                            before you create your mesh bed do you perform only a Zhome or do you perform a G32 (if you confiogured your bed.g to perform a dual (or triple ? ) z bed levelling.
                                            and do you also perform a G32 before you print ? (and of course both wioth the bed at print temp)

                                            personnaly i know that without a G32 i may have shifting in Zaxis cause of my left motor.
                                            This is the only way to be sure that the reference is always the same.
                                            and of course i cancel the mesh bed levelling at the beginning of the bed.g

                                            and as severall people asked: can you provide your config.g, bed.g and the gcode you use to create your meshbed and the one you use when you start to print something.

                                            this way people will be able to helps you. thanks

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