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    • auserundefined
      auser @rjenkinsgb
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      @rjenkinsgb wow, only just saw your "frankentron" very nice work! It does look slightly more complex than I would hope. May I ask how much money it cost you (roughly)?

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      • martin7404undefined
        martin7404 @auser
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        @auser Z alignment is easy as far copperhead can be adjusted it is with clamp for the heat break. I am using 1 copperhead and 1 e3d v6 gold, so I am adjusting the copperhead. In X/Y I am using small USB microscope/camera on the table. I am rebuilding it at the moment for 65 C chamber , so reprinting all the plastics in ABS and PC. My original setup was with PETG. I love the belted triple Z

        Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
        Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
        Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
        custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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        • rjenkinsgbundefined
          rjenkinsgb @auser
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          @auser said in Kit Recommendation: Two Materials 300x300:

          wow, only just saw your "frankentron" very nice work! It does look slightly more complex than I would hope. May I ask how much money it cost you (roughly)?

          It was bought in many parts from several places, so I'm not sure of the exact total; roughly £1000 or so, I'd think.

          The Tronxy X5SA Pro was about £350, for the 330x330 bed version.
          The 400x400 is now not much more, and that would give you about 350x300 x 400 Z print volume after the toolchanger retrofit.

          Then that's plus the Duet 6HC, paneldue and the E3D parts - Hemera direct tools and toolchanger "head" kit etc.

          The construction, or at least the wiring, is more complex than it needs to be, as I put everything on plugs and sockets - if it were all hard wired back to the main board, assembly would be rather quicker and simpler.
          Using the Duet toolboards makes the tool wiring extremely simple!

          Robert J.

          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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          • auserundefined
            auser @auser
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            Thanks all who made suggestions! My current evaluation leads to this.

            • Jubilee: Very interesting Machine! A bit hard to source but looks like almost everything can be got from filastruder, sadly shipping adds at least 233.56 usd to the ca. 1500 (excl. duet) I came up with. Not including import taxes. Budget would still be "ok-ish" but I'm very reluctant as I'm not sure I missed something important.

            • frankentron: Also very interesting I have to say i prefer a pre-made kit.

            • Muldex: still looks like a contender, sadly community seems a bit small? Need to add up all the costs. Also looks like a hell of a lot of printed parts (with no way to buy them).

            • E3D Toolchanger: Nice currently may favourite (bit pricy but big nice comunity and company backing). Waiting for the set with Revo...

            • cough: PrusaXL wrong electronics, but other than that very tempting (no not going to rip out the electronics form a > 2000 money units machine right away).

            To summarize: the search continues... I really do hope that the entry of PrusaXL give a bit of a boost to multi material printing printers in the ~ 2000 price range.
            Did I forget any other contenders?

            edit: typos and formatting (sigh)

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            • oliofundefined
              oliof
              last edited by oliof

              RatRig VCast in IDEX wide boy would have fit your ticket, but the old model is sold out and a new one hasn't been announced. The CAD fmodel is available so you could try to self source.

              <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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              • auserundefined
                auser @oliof
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                @oliof thanks! Indeed this one has flown below my radar. I did have a look at the first two howtos linked from https://ratrig.dozuki.com/c/Rat_Rig_V-Cast and I like them! so one more to keep an eye open for. I don't expect there is any estimation on when the next version of V-Cast will become available?

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                • oliofundefined
                  oliof
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                  Not to my knowledge. I know someone in Germany is willing to sell his, but that's mostly assembled and you probably would need to pick it up ....

                  <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                  • martin7404undefined
                    martin7404 @auser
                    last edited by martin7404

                    @auser For muldex , depending on where are you based 3Dprintingworld -John for USA or me can help you with printed parts. I could build one for you in case you are in EU

                    Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                    Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                    Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                    custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                    • auserundefined
                      auser @martin7404
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                      @martin7404 very kind of you that you offer to help with a muldex! I'm inside europe but not in the EU. Will contact you by PM if that is ok?

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                      • poofjuniorundefined
                        poofjunior @auser
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                        @auser Looks like I'm getting to this one a bit late, but a kit for the frame has been in the works via Filastruder, and we're almost done aggregating everything. Our target is end of this month (Jan), which feels a bit surreal, since we've been at this for a good ten months now.

                        The kit should totally eliminate the need for making your own wire harnesses, come with all the assembly tools except a soldering iron for installing the heat-set inserts, and leverage a Duet3 Mini + 3HC Expansion with 2 drivers to spare for tools by default. (There's also a hole mounting pattern for 2 additional 3HC boards.)

                        Along the way, I totally revamped the default extruder tool to be Orbiter-based with support for the 1.5 and 2.0, and then support groovemount heatsinks, threaded heatsinks, and v6 and v7 heads, not to mention a bunch of clones. It also sports dual 5015 fans. More info on the Baby Bullet here, but the folks who've built one or modified one seem to be really happy with it.

                        I totally acknowledge that building Jubilee is lots of work, but hopefully this will get folks much further out faster.

                        Cheers--and have fun on your build--whatever platform you pick!

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                        • auserundefined
                          auser @poofjunior
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                          @poofjunior said in Kit Recommendation: Two Materials 300x300:

                          a kit for the frame has been in the works via Filastruder,

                          Great news! And thanks for letting me / us know! And no not (for me) I was away a few days and I'm still considering my options. Will there also be an european distributor? As mentioned > 200 usd for shipping and then import tax + VAT does add up.
                          Maybe you can post here again when the kit goes life?
                          best regards

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                          • poofjuniorundefined
                            poofjunior @auser
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                            @auser There's no EU distributer for a kit now, but folks building Jubilees in the EU usually go to HighTemp3D for parts. I'd be open to looking for more folks willing to do kits.

                            I totally acknowledge that shipping costs add up. Test driving a kit in the US is one way to help solve that issue, but not the last. Baby steps!

                            And I'll gladly post an announcement when kits go live if I'm allowed to do some self-promotion!

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                            • auserundefined
                              auser @poofjunior
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                              And I'll gladly post an announcement when kits go live if I'm allowed to do some self-promotion!

                              @T3P3Tony: Is announcing a kit (duet powered) considered ok in this forum? If not @poofjunior, can you maybe suggest (e.g. in PN) where to subscribe?
                              Thanks all!
                              Edit: formatting

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators @poofjunior
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                                @poofjunior said in Kit Recommendation: Two Materials 300x300:

                                And I'll gladly post an announcement when kits go live if I'm allowed to do some self-promotion!

                                Yes that will be ok. In general I am happy for Duet based printer kits to be linked to on this forum as long as:

                                1. The use genuine Duet3D products
                                2. Its not spammed in loads of posts unnecessarily.

                                www.duet3d.com

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                                • zaptaundefined
                                  zapta @auser
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                                  @auser, I presume that you can also mention it in your signature, since it's fine print and tells about your background. 😉

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                                  • auserundefined
                                    auser @zapta
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                                    @zapta
                                    I think that suggestion was directed @poofjunior. He is the jubiliee designer if I'm not mistaken?

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                                    • Sindariusundefined
                                      Sindarius @poofjunior
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                                      @poofjunior I for one am excited about a Jubilee kit!

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                                      • breedundefined
                                        breed @auser
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                                        @auser rat rig v-cast

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                                        • A Former User?
                                          A Former User
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                                          Print your own.
                                          The complete process can be much fun and you´ll learn so much.
                                          I could help you.
                                          cheers
                                          Richard

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                                          • auserundefined
                                            auser
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                                            the filastruder jubilee kit was just announced yesterday: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/27241/jubilee-kits-are-live
                                            To me this looks very good, and is my current favourite. Especially considered that Ratrigs V-Cast update no longer seems to be "coming soon". But is "on hiatus" [1]. I'm off discussing budgets...
                                            [1] https://www.ratrig.com/3d-printing-cnc/rat-rig-v-cast.html

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