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    • Norderundefined
      Norder @gnydick
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      @gnydick
      This is how I would do it to secure the braid at the end.
      (YouTube Video)
      Be careful not to pull the braid too tight when securing the second end.

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      • jens55undefined
        jens55 @Norder
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        @norder, that is pretty slick .... both the method for locking the braid and the way he gets all the lengths just right (one of my big frustrations). Very neat and tidy ..... but is he using a braid for each individual wire?
        I wonder if you can use the braid melting method if you have a whole bunch of wires inside the braid - I suspect that this doesn't work and the heat shrink method is the way to do it.

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        • Norderundefined
          Norder @jens55
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          @jens55
          If you are putting multiple wires into a braid, do it exactly as in the video except allow some of the braid to protrude from under the heat shrink, then heat the heat shrink so it contracts, and then fuse the end of the braid to a ring.
          In this way you prevent the braid from fraying and looking unclean and damaging the cable sleeves.

          A clean piece of shrink tubing can then always be made over the end for a better look.
          You may want to do some hot glue over the end of the braid before you heat shrink, like @deckingman mentioned.

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          Wenn Du mehrere Kabel in ein Geflecht steckst, dann mache es genau so wie im Video, mit der Ausnahme dass Du etwas vom Geflecht unter dem Schrumpfschlauch überstehen lässt und dann den Schrumpfschlauch erwärmst so das er sich zusammen zieht, und dann verschmelze das Ende vom Geflecht zu einem Ring.
          So verhinderst Du dass das Geflecht ausfranst und unsauber aussieht und die Hüllen der Kabel Schaden nehmen können.

          Für einen besseren Look kann dann immer noch ein sauberes Stück Schrumpfschlauch über das Ende gemacht werden.
          Eventuell vorher noch etwas Heißkleber über das Ende des Geflecht machen bevor der Schrumpfschlauch darüber kommt, so wie @deckingman es bereits erwähnt hat.

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          • Norderundefined
            Norder @Norder
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            I also plan to reroute my cables.
            It's such a mess at the moment and so many cables that the air from the fan can hardly get through. 😄
            I intend to do it the way it is done with today's computer cases... I put in a second floor under which all the cables disappear and that you only see the duet where the cables come out of the floor just next to the board and to the lead connections.

            It's always a pain when you want to change something on the board... you always have to cut the cable ties first to get there.
            It doesn't look annoying or pretty either.
            And... the cooling would definitely work better.

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            Ich habe auch vor, meine Kabel neu zu verlegen.
            Das ist momentan so ein Durcheinander und so eine Menge an Kabeln, dass die Luft vom Ventilator kaum noch durchkommt. 😄
            Ich habe es so vor wie es bei den heutigen Computergehäusen gemacht wird... ich lege einen zweiten Boden ein unter dem all die Kabel verschwinden und das man nur noch das Duet sieht wo die Kabel kurz neben dem Board aus dem Boden kommen und zu den Anschlüssen führen.

            Es ist immer eine Qual wenn man am Board etwas ändern möchte... erst muss man immer die Kabelbinder zerschneiden um ans Ziel zu kommen.
            Nervig und schön sieht es auch nicht aus.
            Und... die Kühlung würde bestimmt besser funktionieren.

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            • Nightowlundefined
              Nightowl @jens55
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              @jens55 I'm not sure I'd want to wrap my pets in it though 🙄 😀 😀

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              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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              • jens55undefined
                jens55 @Nightowl
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                @nightowl said in DIY wire sheathing/insulation:

                @jens55 I'm not sure I'd want to wrap my pets in it though 🙄 😀 😀

                Say what ??? I am so confused .....

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @Norder
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                  @norder said in DIY wire sheathing/insulation:

                  You may want to do some hot glue over the end of the braid before you heat shrink, like @deckingman mentioned.

                  Just to clarify, I suggested using glue lined heat shrink rather than glueing the braid separately. This type of heat shrink has a hot melt glue coating on the inside of the tubing. So when heated, it both shrinks and melts the glue.

                  Ian
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                  • Nightowlundefined
                    Nightowl @jens55
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                    @jens55

                    Just my juvenile sense of humour...

                    Screenshot 2022-08-10 at 08.02.52.jpg

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                    I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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                    • Norderundefined
                      Norder @deckingman
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                      @deckingman
                      That sounds good, I didn't even know that. 👍

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                      • Nightowlundefined
                        Nightowl @deckingman
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                        @deckingman said in DIY wire sheathing/insulation:

                        glue lined heat shrink

                        I didn't even know that was a thing.

                        What a great idea!

                        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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                        • gnydickundefined
                          gnydick
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                          Thanks, everyone, great tips!

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                          • jens55undefined
                            jens55 @Nightowl
                            last edited by

                            @nightowl said in DIY wire sheathing/insulation:

                            @jens55

                            Just my juvenile sense of humour...

                            Screenshot 2022-08-10 at 08.02.52.jpg

                            And what's so funny about wrapping up my pet snake in a cable sleeve ? ... 🙂

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                            • Nightowlundefined
                              Nightowl @jens55
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                              @jens55

                              🐍+👚=🔥

                              But otherwise? Nothing 😆 😆

                              Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                              RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @Nightowl
                                last edited by dc42

                                @nightowl @gnydick there is also spiral cable wrap like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wrapping-Organizer-Durable-Sleeves-Computers/dp/B08CV4F7RX typically found in black or transparent. This can be wrapped around wires in-situ.

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                                • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                  jumpedwithbothfeet @dc42
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                                  @dc42 I use that stuff at work, its great for short runs but a nightmare on longer stuff, also be warned don`t use it on moving wiring it will eat though your insulation!

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by dc42

                                    @jumpedwithbothfeet I use it to tie the two multicore cables going to the effector of my sets to the Bowden tube. No problems with it cutting through insulation yet, however the type of spiral wrap I use is quite soft.

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                                    • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                      jumpedwithbothfeet @dc42
                                      last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

                                      @dc42 I imagine that's a pretty straight path to the effector with not many turns or bends? still I would keep an eye on it, I`ve seen vibration alone make it chafe through the insulation but then that was the thicker style of spiral wrap 🙂

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