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    • sneakyferretundefined
      sneakyferret
      last edited by

      More clarification: I have ran automatic calibration using my duet3d smart effector on a duet3d wifi 2 controller. This is the height map that is generated after running mesh compensation.

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      • alankilianundefined
        alankilian @sneakyferret
        last edited by alankilian

        @sneakyferret posting your bed.g will help people determine how many "types" of calibration you are doing.

        This will help understand if you are doing home-switch-height calibration or not.

        The bed.g file defines the points that will be probed, and the number of factors that will be calibrated. RepRapFirmware supports the following calibration schemes:
        
            3-factor: Adjusts the endstop switch position corrections (M666 XYZ parameters).
            4-factor: Similar to traditional manual delta calibration, but much faster. Adjusts the endstop switch position corrections (M666 XYZ parameters) and the delta radius (M665 R parameter).
            6-factor: as 4-factor but also adjusts the X and Y tower position corrections.
            7-factor: as 6-factor but also adjusts the diagonal rod length (M665 L parameter).
            8-factor: as 6-factor but also adjusts the X and Y tilt angles (M666 A and B parameters).
            9-factor: as 8-factor but also adjusts the diagonal rod length (M665 L parameter).
        

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        • sneakyferretundefined
          sneakyferret @alankilian
          last edited by

          @alankilian Here it is!

          ; bed.g
          ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Sun Feb 02 2020 21:40:17 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
          ; 13 points, 7 factors, probing radius: 138, probe offset (0, 0)
          M561 ; clear any bed transform
          G28
          G30 P0 X0.00 Y130.00 Z-99999 H-1.06
          G30 P1 X83.56 Y99.59 Z-99999 H-1.25
          G30 P2 X128.03 Y22.57 Z-99999 H-1.34
          G30 P3 X112.58 Y-65.00 Z-99999 H-0.49
          G30 P4 X44.46 Y-122.16 Z-99999 H0.59
          G30 P5 X-44.46 Y-122.16 Z-99999 H1.47
          G30 P6 X-112.58 Y-65.00 Z-99999 H2.07
          G30 P7 X-128.03 Y22.57 Z-99999 H1.28
          G30 P8 X-83.56 Y99.59 Z-99999 H-0.08
          G30 P9 X0.00 Y65.00 Z-99999 H-0.66
          G30 P10 X56.29 Y-32.50 Z-99999 H-0.22
          G30 P11 X-56.29 Y-32.50 Z-99999 H0.95
          G30 P12 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6
          
          M500 ; I believe this saves the mesh to EPROM
          
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          • sneakyferretundefined
            sneakyferret @sneakyferret
            last edited by

            I am hoping its just something simple I am missing. You guys are great for everything!

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              I'd give it a good mechanical check over. See if anything is cracked, or loose, or wiggles.

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              • sneakyferretundefined
                sneakyferret @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux Have been going over it with a fine tooth comb and so far nothing stands out.

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                • sneakyferretundefined
                  sneakyferret @sneakyferret
                  last edited by

                  @sneakyferret I've checked everything mechanical from tower bolts to stepper motor set screws on my delta printer. The only thing I really notice that's suspicious is that my belt tensions may could be tightened further but its not like they're floppy loose.

                  Anything else come to mind?

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Generate a new bed.g file? I'm not a delta user, so my help is pretty limited.

                    When in doubt though it's good to go back to basics

                    https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Machine_configuration/Configuration_linear_delta
                    https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Delta_calibration

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                    • sneakyferretundefined
                      sneakyferret @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux Appreciate the reply, but I have been over the initial calibration and mesh compensations step by step repeatedly, making sure to follow each step and the result is the same. 😞

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                      • sneakyferretundefined
                        sneakyferret @sneakyferret
                        last edited by

                        @sneakyferret Ok, update! I was following this instructional here and placed trigger height corrections at each of my bed.g points.
                        instructional.png
                        After this, this resulted in the above SUPER skewed height map. I got curious and removed those Hxxx corrections at the end of my bed.g points. Lo and behold:
                        correctedheightmap.png
                        A much more reasonable looking height map!

                        I followed the instructional by measuring trigger height at each of the coordinates and taking that value, subtracting it from the center point trigger height, and placed those values in bed.g. Only problem is I didn't see that it says to place them in G31 commands.. My bed file doesn't contain any G31 commands! 😄

                        I appreciate no one being impatient with me during this. What exactly is G31 used for? I don't understand what everyone says about it.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          G31 defines the offset between the nozzle and probe.

                          https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#g31-set-or-report-current-probe-status

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @sneakyferret
                            last edited by

                            @sneakyferret you should not need to use trigger height corrections when using a Smart Effector. The trigger height should be much the same all over the bed, typically about -0.1mm. What range of trigger heights did you measure, and how did you measure them?

                            When you run auto calibration what results does it report?

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                            • sneakyferretundefined
                              sneakyferret @dc42
                              last edited by

                              @dc42 not too bad. Max deviations are -.148 and .154 at the low and high end. I measured the trigger heights by taking my bed.g coordinates, driving the nozzle to each point, use G30 S-1 to do a single probe and have it display the trigger height. I'll have to re run auto cal to see what it reads out but my bed leveling looks much better now.

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