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    • R006undefined
      R006
      last edited by R006

      Hey,

      I have belt driven system, and RRF version is 3.5.0 RC3, in this I am facing shifting after Resume APF.

      We have observed a consistent shifting problem specifically in the Y axis after resume APF. While the resume process itself seems to function properly, the Y axis exhibits an offset.

      we have use backlash for X & Y axis.

      Any suggestions on it? @dc42 @Phaedrux

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @R006
        last edited by

        @R006 please upgrade to the newly release 3.5.0-RC4 and try again. There have been a number of fixes

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • R006undefined
          R006 @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk
          hey i have tried RRF 3.5.0 rc4 in duet 3, faced problem in driving extruder, extruder motor didn't work. flashed an old firmware every thing works fine without any change.

          do i have to change anything in config for RRF 3.5.0 rc4?

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @R006
            last edited by

            @R006 i wouldn't expect so but i don't know anything about your setup. have you read the changelogs?

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • R006undefined
              R006 @jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @jay_s_uk
              yes

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              • R006undefined
                R006 @jay_s_uk
                last edited by

                @jay_s_uk
                After upgrade to 3.5.0-rc4, i have facing shifting problem and some time Z is not it's correct position at printing time.

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @R006
                  last edited by

                  @R006 sounds like you have some mechanical issues on Z and you're potentially under powering your stepper motors.
                  But without knowing anything about your printer, its pretty hard to tell

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • R006undefined
                    R006 @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by R006

                    @jay_s_uk okay,

                    In Z axis we have use 3 leadscrew with 2stack stepper motor, in X & Y belt with stepper motor.

                    My resurrect-prologue.g file is as below.

                    G92 Z{param.Z}
                    G28 X Y
                    ;wait
                    M116
                    ;rel
                    M83
                    M21 P1
                    G1 E5 F500
                    ;mesh
                    G29 S1
                    ;Buzz
                    M300 S600 P100
                    ;Buzz
                    M300 S700 P1200
                    ;Buzz
                    M300 S500 P300
                    ;Abs
                    G90
                    
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                      luca Massimiliano @jay_s_uk
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                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                        jay_s_uk @luca Massimiliano
                        last edited by

                        @luca-Massimiliano I'm not sure I understand your comment or how it applies to this thread

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        • R006undefined
                          R006 @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by

                          @jay_s_uk i am waiting for your response

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                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                            jay_s_uk @R006
                            last edited by

                            @R006 response to what?

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            • R006undefined
                              R006 @jay_s_uk
                              last edited by R006

                              @jay_s_uk shifting issue and Z position after resume APF
                              and Extruder heater fault

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @R006
                                last edited by

                                @R006 you've posted a single file with no other information about your machine, and expect me to diagnose your problem? And you've thrown in an extruder problem that you've never mentioned before and have again give no other details?
                                You'll be waiting a long time for any further response from me...

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • R006undefined
                                  R006 @jay_s_uk
                                  last edited by

                                  @jay_s_uk

                                  for duet2 wifi, Shifting in Y direction after Resume APF and Z is not it's correct position at printing time.

                                  config of duet2

                                  M552 S-1
                                  M586 P0 S1                                           
                                  M586 P1 S0                                          
                                  M586 P2 S0                                           
                                  
                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0 S1                                           
                                  M569 P1 S1                                           
                                  M569 P2 S1                                           
                                  M569 P3 S1 
                                  M569 P4 S1 
                                  M569 P5 S1   
                                  M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3:4 E5                                    
                                  M350 X32 Y32 I0                                        
                                  M350 Z16 E16 I1                                      
                                  M92 X160.0 Y160.0 Z2133.33 E932.00                     
                                  M566 X720.00 Y720.00 Z300.00 E600.00                       
                                  M203 X8400.00 Y8400.00 Z420.00 E8400.00          
                                  M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z30.00 E250.00                
                                  M906 X2200 Y2200 Z1600 E800 I50                      
                                  M84 S30                                              
                                  
                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                     
                                  M208 X300 Y300 Z304.1 S0                               
                                                            
                                  M591 D0 P7 C"exp.e3stop" R15:300 L7 E17 S1            
                                  
                                  M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                                 
                                  M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                                
                                  M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop+e0_stop+e1_stop"                                 
                                  
                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"                               
                                  M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000  
                                                     
                                  G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z1.038
                                  
                                  M671 X-17.66:297.34:140.00 Y-5.00:-5.00:327.61 S5.0                           
                                  M557 X30:300 Y30:300 S20   
                                  M376 H5                        
                                  		
                                  M950 J1 C"exp.e4stop"  				   	 
                                  M581 P1 T2 R0 S1                                     			     
                                  M582 T2							     
                                  M581 P-1 T2	                                         				     
                                  M581 P1 T0 R0 S1                                    
                                  
                                  M572 D0 S0.055		                             
                                  
                                  ; Bed Heater
                                  M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138       
                                  M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                
                                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                     
                                  M140 H0                                             
                                  M143 H0 S105                                         
                                  
                                  ; Extuder Heater
                                  M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"pt1000"                          
                                  M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                 
                                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      
                                  M143 H1 S320                                         
                                  
                                  ; cooling Fans
                                  M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                                 
                                  M106 P0 S0 H-1                                       
                                  M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                 
                                  M106 P1 S0 H-1                                       
                                  
                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                    
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                      
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0                                         
                                  
                                  ; Custom settings are not defined
                                  M98 P"0:\macros\SKEW.g"
                                  M98 P"0:\macros\Backlash.g"
                                  M98 P"0:\macros\ChangeSteps.g"
                                  
                                  ; Miscellaneous
                                  M575 P1 S1 B57600                                   
                                  M501                                                
                                  M911 S21 R22.5 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z5 E-5 F1000"   
                                  

                                  For duet3 i have upgrade the firmware with 3.5.0rc-4 for both main & Expansion board, i this i am drive Extruder using Expansion board, but extruder is not working.
                                  config for duet3

                                  M569 P0.0 S1                                     
                                  M569 P0.1 S1                                      
                                  M569 P0.2 S1                                   
                                  M569 P0.3 S1                                   
                                  M569 P0.4 S0 T1.3:1.3:1.3:1.3                          
                                  M569 P0.5 S1 T1.3:1.3:1.3:1.3                           
                                  M569 P40.0 S1                                       
                                  M569 P41.0 S1                                       
                                  M584 X0.5 Y0.4 Z0.0:0.1:0.2:0.3 E40.0:41.0            
                                  M350 X8 Y8 Z16 E16:16 I1                             
                                  M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z200.00 E417.00:417.00             
                                  M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z120.00 E1200.00:1200.00      
                                  M203 X24000.00 Y24000.00 Z1800.00 E15000.00:15000.00  
                                  M201 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z30.00 E4000.00:4000.00     
                                  M906 X800 Y800 Z2000 E700:700 I30                        
                                  M84 S30                                                  
                                  
                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                          
                                  M208 X605 Y605 Z660 S0    
                                                             
                                  M591 D0 P7 C"40.io0.in" R15:300 L7 E17 S1	     
                                  M591 D1 P7 C"41.io0.in" R15:300 L7 E17 S1
                                  
                                  M574 X1 S1 P"!io6.in"                               
                                  M574 Y1 S1 P"!io5.in"                              
                                  M574 Z1 S1 P"!io4.in+!io1.in+!io2.in+!io3.in"   
                                            
                                  M950 S0 C"io7.out"                                   
                                  M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H8 F120 T6000   
                                                   
                                  G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z4.83 
                                                                                               
                                  M671 X-47.5:-47.5:724.5:724.5 Y-11:634.5:634.5:-11 S1.0  ; 
                                  
                                  M950 J2 C"io8.in" 		   	 
                                  M581 P2 T2 R0 S0 				     
                                  M582 T2						     
                                  M581 P-2 T2						     
                                  M581 P2 T0 R0 S0
                                  
                                  				 					 
                                  M572 D0:1 S0.065:0.065 
                                  
                                  M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138         
                                  M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    
                                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                 
                                  M140 H0                                               
                                  M143 H0 S152   
                                                                       
                                  M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"pt1000" 
                                  M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                      
                                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      
                                  M143 H1 S305  
                                                                       
                                  M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"pt1000" 
                                  M950 H2 C"out2" T2                                    
                                  M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                  
                                  M143 H2 S305
                                  
                                  M950 F0 C"out7" Q32000                              
                                  M106 P0 S0 H-1 
                                  
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1                                  
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                       
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0                                        
                                  M563 P1 D1 H2 F0:1                                    
                                  G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                  
                                  G10 P1 R0 S0          
                                                                     
                                  M575 P1 S1 B57600                                     
                                  M501                                                  
                                  M911 S21 R22.5 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"  
                                  
                                  
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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    What exactly are you seeing for shifting in Y axis?

                                    What do you have in your resurrection files?

                                    How are you homing when resurrecting from power loss? How are you setting Z?

                                    @R006 said in Shifting Issue After Resuming APF in RRF:

                                    M98 P"0:\macros\SKEW.g"
                                    M98 P"0:\macros\Backlash.g"
                                    M98 P"0:\macros\ChangeSteps.g"

                                    What do you have in those macros?

                                    @R006 said in Shifting Issue After Resuming APF in RRF:

                                    but extruder is not working.

                                    What exactly do you mean?

                                    It's very hard to understand exactly what is happening from your posts. Please be descriptive and share as much information as posible.

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                                    • R006undefined
                                      R006 @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux
                                      resurrect-prologue.g

                                      G92 Z{param.Z}
                                      G28 X Y
                                      ;wait
                                      M116
                                      ;rel
                                      M83
                                      M21 P1
                                      G1 E5 F500
                                      ;mesh
                                      G29 S1
                                      ;Buzz
                                      M300 S600 P100
                                      ;Buzz
                                      M300 S700 P1200
                                      ;Buzz
                                      M300 S500 P300
                                      ;Abs
                                      G90
                                      
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                                      • JayTundefined
                                        JayT @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux :

                                        I have one machine on Duet3. I flashed 3.5RC4. after this extruder motor holds the torque but does not move on extrude commands. When i go back to 3.4.6, it extrudes fine. looks similar to what she's reported. Mine is dual extruder.

                                        Can anyone confirm that 3.5RC4 with their system:
                                        a) drives dual extruder fine
                                        b) Can you test Resume after power failure & check if it resumes fine & does not print from an offset. (for me it occurs in Y direction only).
                                        This happens with Duet2 wifi based belt driven machine.

                                        https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/35334/jerk-acceleration-value-change-after-resume-apf/10?_=1713269800841

                                        c) Can anyone suggest a few checkpoints ?

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                                        • JayTundefined
                                          JayT @JayT
                                          last edited by JayT

                                          @JayT :

                                          This problem of extruder not working with Duet 3 is resolved after flashing RRF3.5.1.
                                          Shifting problem remains same with Duet2, after resume on power failure.

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                                          • R006undefined
                                            R006 @R006
                                            last edited by R006

                                            @R006
                                            hello,
                                            I have tested various versions of RepRapFirmware (RRF), including 3.4.6, 3.5.0rc4, and 3.5.1, in an effort to address the shifting problem. However, the issue remains unchanged across all versions.

                                            To provide context, I operate a guide rod belt-driven system with Duet2 WiFi, which experiences shifting despite the use of different RRF versions.
                                            1.shift in Y direction is more compare to X (most of the time shifting in Y direction with 0.2 to 1 mm).
                                            2.also i have check homing sensor, distance of it is same for X & Y.

                                            I also have a ball screw system with Duet3, and I have never faced similar shifting issues when using the same RRF(3.4.6, 3.5.0rc4, and 3.5.1) versions on this setup.

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