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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @tecno
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      Anybody care to advise?

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @tecno
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        @tecno I need a bit of context. What does this PCB actually do? Does it turn something(s) on and off? Please post an image of the other side of the board, too.

        I'd guess it is an output board, as the optocouplers look like they switch MOSFETs, and control whatever is connected on the green headers on the right. There are 8 pins on the white connector, presumably +V on one pin, and 7 pins to switch each of the 7 optocouplers to GND. There are 9 output terminals; presumably +V and GND, plus the 7 outputs from the MOSFETs?

        Ian

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @droftarts
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          @droftarts
          Hi Ian,
          You have observed the board correctly. This bord gets outputsignals from controller via the ribboncable.
          Controlls nozzle vacuum, pin feeder solenoid Air controll, Xross cursor, LED light and vacuum power.

          Cheers
          Bengt

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @tecno
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            PXL_20240917_085540092.jpg

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @tecno
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              @tecno If you can look up the product number of the optocouplers (I can't see the part number on them from you pictures), it may be they don't need 24V to turn them on and off. However, if it's wired like this:

              There are 8 pins on the white connector, presumably +V on one pin, and 7 pins to switch each of the 7 optocouplers to GND.

              and

              C = pin 2

              i.e. the R22 optocoupler C pin goes to the second pin down on the connector, the first being +V and shared to the A pin on all Optocouplers (please check if there's continuity between pin 1 and the A pin on each optocoupler with a multimeter), then you need to switch the C pin on each optocoupler to GND, which isn't what the io.out pins do (they output a 3.3V signal). I think you'll need to use the OUT pins for that, which do switch to GND. They should also all be able to cope with 24V.

              Ian

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @droftarts
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                @droftarts

                C2M11

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                • tecnoundefined
                  tecno @droftarts
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                  @droftarts said in 6XD I/O:

                  They should also all be able to cope with 24V.

                  That confirms my question, just wanted to be sure and safe 🙂

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators @tecno
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                    @tecno said in 6XD I/O:

                    C2M11

                    I can't find any optocoupler with that marking.

                    That confirms my question, just wanted to be sure and safe 🙂

                    That's the OUT pins, though, not the IO.out pins, just to be clear! IO.out pins are only 3.3V tolerant, wiring 24V to them will destroy the MCU.

                    Ian

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                    • tecnoundefined
                      tecno @droftarts
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                      @droftarts
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                      These 3 only?

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @tecno
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                        @tecno You have the 6x fan outputs as well, 3x 4-pin, 3x 2-pin.

                        Ian

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                        • tecnoundefined
                          tecno @droftarts
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                          @droftarts

                          Thanks Ian, appreciated.

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                            tecno @tecno
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                            @droftarts
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                            io1.in is capable to take 24V ??

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                            • droftartsundefined
                              droftarts administrators @tecno
                              last edited by droftarts

                              @tecno Yes, but io#.in pins don't switch to GND. They are for reading a voltage input, eg endstop, or digital input, eg communications. See https://docs.duet3d.com/Duet3D_hardware/Duet_3_family/Duet_3_Mainboard_6XD_Hardware_Overview#inputoutput-port-capabilities

                              Ian

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                              • tecnoundefined
                                tecno @droftarts
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                                @droftarts
                                OK, will have to sort out my input I/O's and see how they work.

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @tecno
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                                  @droftarts

                                  All limits are OPTO's X, Y, Z1 and Z2 + one more that I can not figure out is Lz

                                  Also Emergency switch did go to old driver.

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @tecno
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                                    @tecno They can connect to the IO headers. See https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Sensors_endstops#h-33v-compatible-optical-endstop
                                    You can use 3.3V or 5V for them. Or do they need 24V too?

                                    Emergency stop can go to any IO input, too. See https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/IO_E_stop

                                    Ian

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @droftarts
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                                      @droftarts

                                      24V ;(

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                                      • droftartsundefined
                                        droftarts administrators @tecno
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                                        @tecno said in 6XD I/O:

                                        24V ;(

                                        That shouldn't matter, as the 6XD IO#.in are 30V-tolerant. Just supply the optos with 24V, signal wire to the IO#.in.

                                        Ian

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @droftarts
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                                          @droftarts
                                          OK, thanks

                                          Lz mystery? Looks like a loadcell? Just behind toolheads.

                                          PXL_20240918_131600490.jpg

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                                          • droftartsundefined
                                            droftarts administrators @tecno
                                            last edited by droftarts

                                            @tecno said in 6XD I/O:

                                            Lz mystery? Looks like a loadcell? Just behind toolheads.

                                            If you mean the thing the pokes out looking like a button, it could be a microswitch or pressure switch, or tool offset switch, or limit switch in case of problems. Otherwise, I don't really know.

                                            Edit: or is that the red LED cross target?

                                            Ian

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