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New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion

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    DjDemonD
    last edited by 24 Mar 2018, 15:16

    New Product Announcement!

    I'm pleased to be able to announce to you our newest product, the Orion module.

    This is the result of months of development and testing by myself and Idris as well as the invaluable feedback from a number of beta testers.

    There were a number of goals we wanted to achieve:

    Accuracy, the Orion module has been shown in tests to be up to twice as accurate as the Piezo20 module.
    Ease of assembly, the Orion module has only three parts and five screws. Brass threaded inserts already in place.
    Rigidity, the Orion module does not rely on the strength of the piezo disk to hold the clamp in place.
    Ease of tuning, no fiddling with assembly bolts during tuning, just screw it down tight and leave it alone. Also includes easy tune tech from the PP20 v1.1 circuit
    Durability, no delicate piezo solder joints in the Orion module. Brass threaded inserts make for much more robust connections.
    Flexibility, today we are launching four different kits, groovemount and screwmount each with the option of bowden or direct drive feed. Dedicated kits for the CR-10 family and TronXY X5s are on the way. Hotend clamps for E3D Chimera/Cyclops and Microswiss hotend under development.
    Modularity, Hotend clamps and printer mounting adapters are modular, simply print a different mount/clamp if you change your hotend or printer
    Integrated bowden fitting, bowden versions come with an integrated bowden collet allowing use of a wider range of hotends without issue.

    We're really excited about this new development and we hope you will be too, if you have any comments or feedback we'd love to hear it.

    https://www.precisionpiezo.co.uk/product-page/precision-piezo-orion-kit

    Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
    www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
    PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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      JohnOCFII
      last edited by 25 Mar 2018, 17:19

      Looks like great enhancements!

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        c310
        last edited by 25 Mar 2018, 18:16

        is there anything for chimera dual extruder?

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          DjDemonD
          last edited by 25 Mar 2018, 18:34

          Not yet, underbed setup is still the most likely setup to work for more complex hotends.

          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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            Mike
            last edited by 25 Mar 2018, 20:16

            Nice! Do you plan to release those for underbed setups? So far those look like single channel only.

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              Jackal
              last edited by 26 Mar 2018, 01:47

              Great to see more innovation on the pizeo sensors.
              Just out of interest, do you plan to make a version compatible with the v6 threaded heatsink?

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                DjDemonD
                last edited by 26 Mar 2018, 09:43

                @Mike - this type of PCB might be useful in an underbed setup, but it won't eliminate wires (which is the primary purpose of the Orion over the Piezo20) as invariably you'll need three units one for each bed support and they will need to be wired together. As such underbed is still best achieved using 3 piezos and one controller - the universal kit PCB.

                @Jackal - this is an interesting question, we could make the lower clamp part with just a thread in it, or an embedded M12 nut (I think its M12 fine thread isn't it?). However the threaded heatsink has its best application on the Smart Effector (where you do not need a piezo z -probe), but the Orion clamp for the groovemount is extremely secure, so if you want to use the Orion I'd buy ideally, a genuine V6 groovemount heatsink, but practically a clone v6 heatsink will do. You don't need bowden on the heatsink as the Orion has a straight through bowden coupler like a v6.

                Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                  uk25
                  last edited by 3 Apr 2018, 18:04

                  Wow. Your Orion module is looking very interesting.

                  I have several questions about it:
                  1. Will this module be available without 3d printed parts?
                  2. Can i use it upside down, to place the connector on top side?
                  3. Where can i get its dimensions with holes?

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                    DjDemonD
                    last edited by 4 Mar 2018, 18:17 3 Apr 2018, 18:17

                    Hi thanks for taking an interest.

                    1. Eventually, production so far is being channelled into the complete units, demand is fairly high, but we would expect a PCB only offering at some point. Whether it will be significantly less expensive is doubtful as the PCB constitutes quite a chunk of the value in the system.
                    2. Yes you could repurpose the pcb to work in a variety of different orientations. Future designs will potentially allow use as a titan extruder mounting plate for example.
                    3. We have someone who is willing to make a 3d model of the unit, we just have to get one to him. I will get the dimensions or a drawing and link to it asap. Idris is running the company now as I have had to take time off due to family commitments.

                    Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                    www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                    PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                      AlexLin
                      last edited by 3 Apr 2018, 18:32

                      Search thingiverse for piezo Orion and you'll find stl for the parts and the PCB is 1.6mm thick, I heard from Idris

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                        ShadowX
                        last edited by 3 Apr 2018, 20:43

                        How does the hot end mount to the underside of the Orion in each application?

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                          uk25
                          last edited by 4 Mar 2018, 21:05 3 Apr 2018, 20:51

                          @AlexLin:

                          Search thingiverse for piezo Orion and you'll find stl for the parts and the PCB is 1.6mm thick, I heard from Idris

                          Thanks. I found the model and leave its link here, may be it will be useful for somebody.
                          https://makerware.thingiverse.com/thing:2841681

                          @DjDemonD:

                          3. We have someone who is willing to make a 3d model of the unit, we just have to get one to him. I will get the dimensions or a drawing and link to it asap. Idris is running the company now as I have had to take time off due to family commitments.

                          Thanks. Detailed 3d model will be very handy or at least an exact drawing.

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                            DjDemonD
                            last edited by 4 Mar 2018, 21:03 3 Apr 2018, 21:02

                            @ShadowX:

                            How does the hot end mount to the underside of the Orion in each application?

                            It mounts via the clamp, which is attached to the upper part with 4 screws.

                            Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                            www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                            PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                              nullenvoid
                              last edited by 4 Jul 2018, 18:05 7 Apr 2018, 18:03

                              Thank you! I just installed an Orion on my main 3D printer and it's working great.

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                                Moriquendi
                                last edited by 9 Apr 2018, 12:43

                                Looks really good, glad you're happy with it.

                                Idris

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                                  DjDemonD
                                  last edited by DjDemonD 4 Sept 2018, 12:54 9 Apr 2018, 12:54

                                  Well I guess this goes some way to answering the question of how much weight can you hang from it? Be keen to see how it does long term, they're fairly tough.

                                  Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                  PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                    Moriquendi
                                    last edited by 9 Apr 2018, 15:45

                                    I'm somewhat surprised that it's working well with so much additional weight hanging off the hotend, I'd want to mount anything I could from the carriage rather than the Orion.

                                    Idris

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                                      pogo1213
                                      last edited by 7 May 2018, 20:12

                                      Where do I find the stls for the groove mount setup. My groove mount broke last night so I need to reprint it. Thanks in advance for the help.

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                                        burtoogle @pogo1213
                                        last edited by burtoogle 5 Jul 2018, 20:22 7 May 2018, 20:22

                                        Hello @pogo1213 . Is it the Orion groove mount STL you want? If so, I can provide that and also a modified version that I am currently using because the original did not fit well and was also too flexible.

                                        Orion groovemount original stl + my hacked version

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                                          hevilp
                                          last edited by 11 Aug 2018, 06:14

                                          Hi, there are any news on the chimera mount?

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