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    • CodonExeundefined
      CodonExe
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      I use the Molex Microfit as well for my collection of hotend assemblies. They are rated at 8.5amps

      Rostock Max V2, Duet Wifi, IR Probe, PanelDue 7" LCD, Heated Enclosure, Firestop cans, Thermally Fused 12v E3D V6, Berd Air, Floating Thermally fused 24v Bed, Aluminum heat spreader, PEI, Dual 12v PSUs in series.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        I use dual-row Molex microfit connectors on my delta printer. The only issue I have with them is that I find it impossible to extract the crimp pins if I need to rewire them. The proper pin extraction tool is not cheap.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman
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          Thanks guys

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • Aussiephilundefined
            Aussiephil
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            Another option is JST style connectors,
            I've seen a lot of JST style connectors on the ends of the RGB pixels i buy for christmas lighting and they are a good solid lock and ubiquitous on aliexpress.
            πŸ™‚ first thing i do is cut them off as they are not waterproof but that's not an issue for the 3D print world.

            A quick search on aliexpress turned up a link to ready to crimp housings and pins http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-Sets-JST-2-54mm-SM-4-Pin-4-Way-Multipole-Connector-plug-With-ternimal-male/2048071728.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.226.g6lqfC&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_2_10057_10056_10055_10049_10059_10058_10017_405_404_10040_10060_10061_412,searchweb201603_8&btsid=3821c22b-b114-45e6-877e-70e06f1ecada
            a couple others have 100 units for not much more..

            Cheers
            Phil

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            • Rommieundefined
              Rommie
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              Could always try these
              http://shop.rc-electronic.com/WING-AND-FUSELAGE-CONNECTORS/ROOKIE-LINE/Wing-connectors-8pin-plug-socket-2-pairs.htm?shop=k_emcotec_e&a=article&ProdNr=A85310&p=3726

              I may look at these myself would make wireing much better

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              • briangilbertundefined
                briangilbert
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                Any thought on 15 pin D type connectors? having trouble finding datasheets too if they would handle 40watt hot-end at 24v (1.6amp by my calculation).. cable run approx 1m.

                I was planning to use these so that I can remove whole effector to swap in another one if need

                Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                • Aussiephilundefined
                  Aussiephil
                  last edited by

                  @briangilbert:

                  Any thought on 15 pin D type connectors? having trouble finding datasheets too if they would handle 40watt hot-end at 24v (1.6amp by my calculation).. cable run approx 1m.

                  I was planning to use these so that I can remove whole effector to swap in another one if need

                  3M show 1A http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/1/ts0234-247014.pdf however OMRON show 3A http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/307/XM3-L_XM2-L_XM4K_XM4L_1212-348835.pdf

                  The greater issue may be that D-Sub in general are specced for 26AWG or 28AWG wiring and this in my personal view is way to thin…... πŸ™‚ mind you i have wired D-Sub's with heavier wire in the distant past πŸ™‚

                  Cheers
                  Phil

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                  • briangilbertundefined
                    briangilbert
                    last edited by

                    A friend at my hackerspace reports pumping 15amp through single pins on 15Pin D connectors.. so I think the 1.6amp for a hotend will be ok, I've put them on the outside of the plug so that heat doesn't build up tho..

                    Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators
                      last edited by

                      The Mendel90 by the brilliant nophead used D type connectors for hotend etc:

                      http://hydraraptor.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/mendel90-extruder.html?m=1

                      We copied this design on the Think3dPrint3d laser cut mendel90. The D type connectors work well and are particularly suited to flat ribbon cable as they come in IDC versions.

                      www.duet3d.com

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                      • briangilbertundefined
                        briangilbert
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                        Considering I've already used the connector, glad to hear this πŸ™‚

                        Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                        • Aussiephilundefined
                          Aussiephil
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                          @briangilbert:

                          A friend at my hackerspace reports pumping 15amp through single pins on 15Pin D connectors.. .

                          mmm maybe that is not a good reason to copy him and whilst I'm trying to be polite I call a steaming pile of BS from him.
                          if he did it it…. is so far outside of even safe margins for the connector rating to even be considered vaguely safe at 15A for any extended periods.

                          We have a huge range of "designed for the task" quick connectors for power which the heater wires should use at the very least.

                          Cheers
                          Phil

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                          • briangilbertundefined
                            briangilbert
                            last edited by

                            @aussiephil

                            Normally I would say yes, but I believe him in this case.. either way I'm not planning to over-rate by anywhere near that in my case..

                            Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                            • ShadowXundefined
                              ShadowX
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                              The D-sub pins are safely rated to 3A. Test have shown the temperature rises approximately 12C at 3A. You can pump more current through them, but the temperature may approach unsafe levels.

                              The easiest way to route high current is to use small compact battery connectors for RC applications. There are lots of different types such as Deans, Molex, JST, Tamiya, Futaba etc and they are rated for high currents due to the design. These connectors have a lot more surface contact between the male and female pins and some are gold plated to reduce oxidation which increases electrical resistance. I use the Deans connector for my hot end and it is very compact and can handle the current without problems.

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                              • ShadowXundefined
                                ShadowX
                                last edited by

                                Examples:

                                Deans:

                                Others:

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                                • ShadowXundefined
                                  ShadowX
                                  last edited by

                                  For the lower current connections such as PT100, you can use a JST style 2.54 connector pin. There are different types from 2 pins to 20 pins and they have a locking feature to prevent accidental demates. There is no point in routing the PT100 and hot end on same connector unless you split the hot end into multiple pins to reduce the current through each pin. If the connector is rated for high current, it would be large, and vice versa for smaller connector. You always way to keep the high current connection on a different connector.


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