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    TLAS
    last edited by 13 Nov 2018, 14:22

    Any chance we could get more details on that SBC interface? Also, Wifi and an Ethernet port (ideally with that extendable antenna) would be amazing and solve the vast majority of the problems I've been having with the Duet.

    Also, I'd love to have a REST API interface for the Duet for future Duet Web Control expansion. It would also enable a lot more in the IoT world. It's possible the Duet Web Control already has this - if so, can you share some details?

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      T3P3Tony administrators
      last edited by dc42 13 Nov 2018, 17:32

      We will be able to give more details about the Duet 3 to SBC interface in the next month or too. Most of what is requested is easy to implement on the SBC (e.g. REST API, all the network interface choices)

      We are a fairly long way to having a beta. What we showed at the TCT was a concept. Once we get closer to prototype production we will be announcing more details.

      www.duet3d.com

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        brunofporto @T3P3Tony
        last edited by 13 Nov 2018, 20:06

        @t3p3tony I am planning to use the Duet3 with a really large scale FarmBot as my younger brother plans to work with it as his final engineering project - how Duet3 will handle "exotic" (non FDM/CNC/Laser) systems?

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          T3P3Tony administrators @brunofporto
          last edited by T3P3Tony 13 Nov 2018, 21:04

          @brunofporto sounds good, however it's likely that a farm bot would work great with Duet 2 unless you planned on having lots of heads!

          www.duet3d.com

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            brunofporto @T3P3Tony
            last edited by brunofporto 13 Nov 2018, 21:37

            @t3p3tony The issue is the size. We would like to design a polar system, with a Delta as "fine" tool manipulator to compensate for the imprecision of a 50m radius woobly thing πŸ˜„

            So a duet3 main would control the big polar system, pumps, feeders, etc. Then a add-on card would control the local precision tool.

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              sigxcpu @Phaedrux
              last edited by 13 Nov 2018, 22:14

              @phaedrux said in Duet 3 demo at TCT:

              @deckingman

              Currently the DWC runs on the same CPU on the Duet that also handles everything else the printer has to control. It used to run on the even slower wifi chip.

              Duet 2 = 120MHz 32-bit, ESP8266 = 160 MHz 32-bit.
              I think moving the web task to the main Duet 2 chip was because there is no ESP8266 in Duet 2 Ethernet.
              And in terms of performance, that is a mistake, because the main chip has realtime tasks to do while ESP8266 is mostly idle now.

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by dc42 14 Nov 2018, 06:44

                No, the main reason we moved the web server to the main processor is because it was too hard to debug the web server on the ESP, and because of the closed source SDK for the ESP we could never be sure whether CPU time used by the web server was impacting on the WiFi performance. Also it was taking too long to upload DWC to the ESP during manufacturing.

                Like most users, we run the ESP at 80MHz, not 160MHz.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  percar
                  last edited by 15 Nov 2018, 00:02

                  Sounds really exciting. Do you have a timeline for when beta or first retail will be available?
                  I would like to be on the list of Beta Testers if it is possible

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                    T3P3Tony administrators @percar
                    last edited by 18 Nov 2018, 09:25

                    @percar we want to have some initial production boards in Q2 2019.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                      fcwilt @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 18 Nov 2018, 09:49

                      @phaedrux said in Duet 3 demo at TCT:

                      modern Linux operating system

                      You have a great sense of humor!

                      πŸ™‚

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        fcwilt
                        last edited by 18 Nov 2018, 14:11

                        Hi,

                        The new design looks very well thought out.

                        It's a good thing it is not going to be around until next year - gives me time to come up with the reason why I have to have it - it's a "wife" thing. πŸ˜‰

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          NoSkillzEngineer @T3P3Tony
                          last edited by 28 Feb 2019, 14:45

                          @t3p3tony Hey, so how close are you guys to that Q2 2019 goal for early production boards? πŸ™ƒ Can you take my money for it yet? πŸ˜†πŸ˜‹

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                            Surgikill
                            last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 16:40

                            Would it be possible to make an expansion board that mounts directly to the extruder? Say it has a single stepper driver, some PWN fan controls, Z probe input, heater control and a thermistor input? Would be really nice if all you had to run to the extruder is power and data, instead of having a mess of wires like normal. Would also make tool changing much easier.

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                              Phaedrux Moderator @Surgikill
                              last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 16:45

                              @surgikill said in Duet 3 demo at TCT:

                              Would it be possible to make an expansion board that mounts directly to the extruder? Say it has a single stepper driver, some PWN fan controls, Z probe input, heater control and a thermistor input? Would be really nice if all you had to run to the extruder is power and data, instead of having a mess of wires like normal. Would also make tool changing much easier.

                              I think they've actually talked about a board exactly like that.

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:05

                                It will be a smart tool board, handling at least an extruder motor, heater, temperature sensor, 2 fans and a Z probe.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  wilriker
                                  last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:32

                                  I do have a Duet 2 - I don't need a Duet 3 - I do have a Duet 2 - I don't need a Duet 3...

                                  Just practicing. I need to get this mandra working until Duet 3 is available. πŸ˜‚

                                  Manuel
                                  Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                  with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                  My Tool Collection

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                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:37

                                    I was testing the Duet 3 second prototypes earlier today.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      fma
                                      last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:43

                                      @wilriker said in Duet 3 demo at TCT:

                                      I do have a Duet 2 - I don't need a Duet 3 - I do have a Duet 2 - I don't need a Duet 3...

                                      Just practicing. I need to get this mandra working until Duet 3 is available. πŸ˜‚

                                      "This Is Not the Duet You Are Looking For" πŸ˜‰

                                      FrΓ©dΓ©ric

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                                        c310 @dc42
                                        last edited by c310 3 Aug 2019, 20:05 8 Mar 2019, 20:05

                                        @dc42 said in Duet 3 demo at TCT:

                                        I was testing the Duet 3 second prototypes earlier today.

                                        what are the main cool features, compared to DuetWiFi ? will you uncover a bit?

                                        this link www.duet3d.com/duet3 does not work

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                                          deckingman @c310
                                          last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 22:52

                                          @c310 That link works for me.

                                          Ian
                                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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