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    PaulHew
    last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 10:17

    @Veti Those configs are for a stock Ender 3 Pro with a BL Touch mounted on these parts.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS2TxsX-kBR6hmoeuBAtugCa8P2651bOPuQJ76QD8jk-UFWg4FWrNI2Ca36mKzLy2FUOWAu_IpzywLo/pubhtml?gid=1441642341&single=true
    BULLSEYE_BASE_CREALITY_9.27
    Bullseye_Duct_9.27
    ALL_BLT_LEFT_X-48_Y-10_3.29

    I was still unsure of the thermistor params, but the ones in the config seemed to work OK.

    Regards
    Paul.

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      Veti
      last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 10:25

      ender 3 uses epocs 100k. Marlin Thermistor table 1
      see
      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/9464/m305-thermistor-values-for-the-duet-maestro-on-the-ender-3-pro/9

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        PaulHew
        last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 10:27

        Thanks @Veti I used those params in the end, I remember.

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          baesjerker
          last edited by baesjerker 23 Apr 2019, 11:52

          Thanks again for sharing your configs. I noticed right away that the heated bed/nozzle did not get hot enough so I kept the stock config here.

          M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700

          I also changed the xy offset to match my bltouch mount because I don't have a bullseye. Even after that it still seems to probe on the outside. I bumped "Y" again and it is probing on the bed again.

          I am running a test print again using Slic3r. Checked "Use relative E distances".

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            Phaedrux Moderator @baesjerker
            last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 16:40

            @baesjerker said in Ender 3 Pro configuration:

            Ok. So I printed a test cube yesterday. Usually when I printed something with the stock Ender 3 Pro board, the BLTouch would probe the bed before it starts to print, but not this time. The print looked decent, but a little squished in the layers. I need to experiment a bit here. BUT the strangest thing happened when the print finished. The extruder just stopped at the very last point in the very last layer and then the extruder retracted all filament from the nozzle and all the way back to the filament spool.

            I think this has to be related to Cura somehow. I’m going to try reprap flavor and some tunings found on this forum.

            This is a learning curve, but it’s fun to see progress.

            You'll need to check your start and end gcode in the slicer. It specifies what happens before and after the print. To home before printing there needs to be a G28. And to lift the nozzle after or at least move it away you can use G28 X to home the X axis to move it away from the print. You can get as fancy as you want.

            The retracting all the filament thing happens when cura is set to use absolute extrusion and the end gcode tells it to retract a bit of filament but instead of retracting just a bit, it commands it to go all the way back to the very beginning of extrusion. Setting cura to use relative extrusion distances will solve that.

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              baesjerker @Phaedrux
              last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 17:36

              Thank you @phaedrux Slic3r stock with checked " Use relative E distances" solved it, but I really don't like Slic3r. I find Cura much easier to use.

              I will look into how to use relative extrusion in Cura.

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                Phaedrux Moderator @baesjerker
                last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 17:44

                @baesjerker said in Ender 3 Pro configuration:

                I will look into how to use relative extrusion in Cura.

                It's an option under the Special Modes menu heading. It might be hidden by default.

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                  baesjerker @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 23 Apr 2019, 17:46

                  @phaedrux Awesome. Found it.

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                    baesjerker
                    last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 08:04

                    Now everything seems to be working like it was when using my stock Ender 3 Pro board.

                    Print quality is more or less the same, maybe a bit worse than before, but I need to experiment a little more with the duet config and in Cura.

                    But the stepper motor noise is almost gone they are so much quieter now!

                    I also had to lower the current for the stepper motors. They where running really hot using stock (x, y, z, e) (725, 725, 725, 900). Trying to find the magic numbers here.

                    I see everything from 400 to 900 on this forum.

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 09:47

                      The Ender 3 uses low current motors and 24V power, so I am not surprised that you need to reduce motor current. Stepper motor current is adjustable in steps of 100mA on the Duet WiFi/Ethernet, and 50mA on the Duet Maestro. So 600mA may be a good value to try, perhaps a little more on the extruder motor if necessary.

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                        JamesM
                        last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 11:20

                        I've been using the following currents on my Ender 3 since I put the Duet wifi in it without issue.
                        M906 X950.00 Y950.00 Z850.00 E900.00 I30

                        I think the motors at their hottest hit mid 40C range so not hot for stepper motors.

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                          Veti
                          last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 11:36

                          the ender 3 motors are
                          x,y,z 0.84A
                          e 1A
                          https://gist.github.com/knoopx/e6c40a009e796203b93a75a3ed6a5ab8

                          950 might be a little bit hight for x and y.

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                            JamesM
                            last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 13:02

                            I guess I can try lowering the current. At some point I'm going to replace the X and Y stepper motors with 0.9 degree ones with more torque now that I'm using a direct drive extruder as well as glass with PEI on the bed.

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                              baesjerker @dc42
                              last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 17:37

                              @dc42 thanks. I will try that.

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                                baesjerker @Veti
                                last edited by 24 Apr 2019, 17:39

                                @veti you are right. I missed the 90% -_- thanks. My motors run extremely hot with what I already have so I will try with 600(x, y, z) and see.

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                                  NoSkillzEngineer @baesjerker
                                  last edited by NoSkillzEngineer 25 Apr 2019, 00:32

                                  @baesjerker

                                  @dc42

                                  Haha so the 1000 mA I had set in my config mayyyyyy be toooo much is what you're trying to say 😂

                                  hmmmmm hahaha

                                  @jamesm said in Ender 3 Pro configuration:

                                  I've been using the following currents on my Ender 3 since I put the Duet wifi in it without issue.
                                  M906 X950.00 Y950.00 Z850.00 E900.00 I30

                                  I think the motors at their hottest hit mid 40C range so not hot for stepper motors.

                                  hmmm, I wonder why yours are fine...800 it is for now

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                                    baesjerker
                                    last edited by 25 Apr 2019, 07:38

                                    The Y and Z motors do not get that hot using 700-800, but the X motor gets extremely hot. I can hold my hand on the back of the X motor for 2 seconds or so and then I have to let go. I have checked belts and everything else. 600 Seems to work great. It still gets hot, but not 800 HOT!

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                                      Veti
                                      last edited by 25 Apr 2019, 07:58

                                      thats strange as the x and y should be the same motors.
                                      have you measured the resistance of the phase for both x and y motors? could be a production issue.

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                                        baesjerker @Veti
                                        last edited by baesjerker 26 Apr 2019, 08:39

                                        @veti I will check on it later today. Do anyone know if I can use the Ender 3 Pro display with the duet?

                                        Edit. Nevermind. Found out by searching 12864.

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                                          Veti
                                          last edited by 26 Apr 2019, 08:43

                                          with the duet maestro yes. you need another cable for the second exp and swap the plastic housing of exp1 and exp2 around. and connect those to the maestro

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