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    • baesjerkerundefined
      baesjerker
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      Ok. So I printed a test cube yesterday. Usually when I printed something with the stock Ender 3 Pro board, the BLTouch would probe the bed before it starts to print, but not this time. The print looked decent, but a little squished in the layers. I need to experiment a bit here. BUT the strangest thing happened when the print finished. The extruder just stopped at the very last point in the very last layer and then the extruder retracted all filament from the nozzle and all the way back to the filament spool.

      I think this has to be related to Cura somehow. I’m going to try reprap flavor and some tunings found on this forum.

      This is a learning curve, but it’s fun to see progress.

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      • baesjerkerundefined
        baesjerker @PaulHew
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        @paulhew great! Thank you!

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          since a lot of people are converting their ender 3s it might make sense to include this as a default option in the configurator

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          • PaulHewundefined
            PaulHew
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            @Veti Those configs are for a stock Ender 3 Pro with a BL Touch mounted on these parts.
            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS2TxsX-kBR6hmoeuBAtugCa8P2651bOPuQJ76QD8jk-UFWg4FWrNI2Ca36mKzLy2FUOWAu_IpzywLo/pubhtml?gid=1441642341&single=true
            BULLSEYE_BASE_CREALITY_9.27
            Bullseye_Duct_9.27
            ALL_BLT_LEFT_X-48_Y-10_3.29

            I was still unsure of the thermistor params, but the ones in the config seemed to work OK.

            Regards
            Paul.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              ender 3 uses epocs 100k. Marlin Thermistor table 1
              see
              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/9464/m305-thermistor-values-for-the-duet-maestro-on-the-ender-3-pro/9

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              • PaulHewundefined
                PaulHew
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                Thanks @Veti I used those params in the end, I remember.

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                • baesjerkerundefined
                  baesjerker
                  last edited by baesjerker

                  Thanks again for sharing your configs. I noticed right away that the heated bed/nozzle did not get hot enough so I kept the stock config here.

                  M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700

                  I also changed the xy offset to match my bltouch mount because I don't have a bullseye. Even after that it still seems to probe on the outside. I bumped "Y" again and it is probing on the bed again.

                  I am running a test print again using Slic3r. Checked "Use relative E distances".

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @baesjerker
                    last edited by

                    @baesjerker said in Ender 3 Pro configuration:

                    Ok. So I printed a test cube yesterday. Usually when I printed something with the stock Ender 3 Pro board, the BLTouch would probe the bed before it starts to print, but not this time. The print looked decent, but a little squished in the layers. I need to experiment a bit here. BUT the strangest thing happened when the print finished. The extruder just stopped at the very last point in the very last layer and then the extruder retracted all filament from the nozzle and all the way back to the filament spool.

                    I think this has to be related to Cura somehow. I’m going to try reprap flavor and some tunings found on this forum.

                    This is a learning curve, but it’s fun to see progress.

                    You'll need to check your start and end gcode in the slicer. It specifies what happens before and after the print. To home before printing there needs to be a G28. And to lift the nozzle after or at least move it away you can use G28 X to home the X axis to move it away from the print. You can get as fancy as you want.

                    The retracting all the filament thing happens when cura is set to use absolute extrusion and the end gcode tells it to retract a bit of filament but instead of retracting just a bit, it commands it to go all the way back to the very beginning of extrusion. Setting cura to use relative extrusion distances will solve that.

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                    • baesjerkerundefined
                      baesjerker @Phaedrux
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                      Thank you @phaedrux Slic3r stock with checked " Use relative E distances" solved it, but I really don't like Slic3r. I find Cura much easier to use.

                      I will look into how to use relative extrusion in Cura.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @baesjerker
                        last edited by

                        @baesjerker said in Ender 3 Pro configuration:

                        I will look into how to use relative extrusion in Cura.

                        It's an option under the Special Modes menu heading. It might be hidden by default.

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                        • baesjerkerundefined
                          baesjerker @Phaedrux
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                          @phaedrux Awesome. Found it.

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                          • baesjerkerundefined
                            baesjerker
                            last edited by

                            Now everything seems to be working like it was when using my stock Ender 3 Pro board.

                            Print quality is more or less the same, maybe a bit worse than before, but I need to experiment a little more with the duet config and in Cura.

                            But the stepper motor noise is almost gone they are so much quieter now!

                            I also had to lower the current for the stepper motors. They where running really hot using stock (x, y, z, e) (725, 725, 725, 900). Trying to find the magic numbers here.

                            I see everything from 400 to 900 on this forum.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              The Ender 3 uses low current motors and 24V power, so I am not surprised that you need to reduce motor current. Stepper motor current is adjustable in steps of 100mA on the Duet WiFi/Ethernet, and 50mA on the Duet Maestro. So 600mA may be a good value to try, perhaps a little more on the extruder motor if necessary.

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                              • JamesMundefined
                                JamesM
                                last edited by

                                I've been using the following currents on my Ender 3 since I put the Duet wifi in it without issue.
                                M906 X950.00 Y950.00 Z850.00 E900.00 I30

                                I think the motors at their hottest hit mid 40C range so not hot for stepper motors.

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  the ender 3 motors are
                                  x,y,z 0.84A
                                  e 1A
                                  https://gist.github.com/knoopx/e6c40a009e796203b93a75a3ed6a5ab8

                                  950 might be a little bit hight for x and y.

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                                  • JamesMundefined
                                    JamesM
                                    last edited by

                                    I guess I can try lowering the current. At some point I'm going to replace the X and Y stepper motors with 0.9 degree ones with more torque now that I'm using a direct drive extruder as well as glass with PEI on the bed.

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                                    • baesjerkerundefined
                                      baesjerker @dc42
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                                      @dc42 thanks. I will try that.

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                                      • baesjerkerundefined
                                        baesjerker @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @veti you are right. I missed the 90% -_- thanks. My motors run extremely hot with what I already have so I will try with 600(x, y, z) and see.

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                                        • NoSkillzEngineerundefined
                                          NoSkillzEngineer @baesjerker
                                          last edited by NoSkillzEngineer

                                          @baesjerker

                                          @dc42

                                          Haha so the 1000 mA I had set in my config mayyyyyy be toooo much is what you're trying to say 😂

                                          hmmmmm hahaha

                                          @jamesm said in Ender 3 Pro configuration:

                                          I've been using the following currents on my Ender 3 since I put the Duet wifi in it without issue.
                                          M906 X950.00 Y950.00 Z850.00 E900.00 I30

                                          I think the motors at their hottest hit mid 40C range so not hot for stepper motors.

                                          hmmm, I wonder why yours are fine...800 it is for now

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                                          • baesjerkerundefined
                                            baesjerker
                                            last edited by

                                            The Y and Z motors do not get that hot using 700-800, but the X motor gets extremely hot. I can hold my hand on the back of the X motor for 2 seconds or so and then I have to let go. I have checked belts and everything else. 600 Seems to work great. It still gets hot, but not 800 HOT!

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