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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Thi is being discussed right now, but Initially I think there will be these options:

      1. PCB effector, carriage adapters and connector kit only. This is for customers who will not be using a E3Dv6 hot end.

      2. As #1 plus custom heatsink to replace the standard E3Dv6 heatsink.

      T3P3 (who do the order processing and shipping for Duet3D), Filastruder and some of our other distributors are also E3D resellers. So it's likely that they will provide an option to buy the rest of the E3Dv6 parts at the same time, probably with a choice of thermistor or PT100 temperature sensor.

      As Tony said already, we are looking at stocking Haydn's magnetic rods for the benefit of customers in the UK and Europe. I don't know whether we will have them by the time we start shipping the effector.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • saffiundefined
        saffi
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        Would it help if we pre-ordered or reserved these so a more accurate order count can be made?

        Also, are there advantages to using a four-wire PT100 sensor or is that mostly for extremely fine tuned temperature ranges?

        Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          I hope we will have news on a possible pre-order for the effector soon. We don't need to have one for the numbers, we're having plenty made because we believe it will sell well. I should have the first production units to test at the end of this week.

          The advantage of a 4-wire connection is that the resistance of the wires and connectors gets cancelled out so that it doesn't affect the reading. However, E3D doesn't make a 4-wire PT100 cartridge yet. So I have a 2-wire PT100 plugged into the effector, and 4 conductors in an an 8-core cable back to the Duet. The other 4 cores are used for the Z probe connections.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • saffiundefined
            saffi
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            It will be nice to rule out bed tilt from the new probe with a fixed bed, the variable height readings at different probe locations is the only slight weakness of the FSR sensor arrangement (and it's only a .05mm variation in my experience, which can be effectively ignore for most things).

            I need to create an OpenSCAD design for a belt attachment for the PCB carriage. What are the screws spacing for a standard linear rail / the PCB carriage? I can probably make a temporary design that people can use if they are waiting on an aluminum carriage tensioner to ship.

            Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              The fixing holes on the carriage adapter are four M3 size holes on a 20mm square.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt
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                Well unless it will be cost me an arm and two legs I will be ordering a few.

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • saffiundefined
                  saffi
                  last edited by

                  @dc42:

                  The fixing holes on the carriage adapter are four M3 size holes on a 20mm square.

                  Sounds easy enough. If I create something useful, I'll post the design.

                  Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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                  • Dougal1957undefined
                    Dougal1957
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                    @dc42:

                    The hot end mounting hasn't changed. We managed to squeeze in 3 extra mounting holes in the production version, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Connectors_and_Wiring.

                    Might be worth giving the dimensions of the additional mounting Holes David.

                    Just so people can start working on mounting plates for different hotends.

                    Doug

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                    • DADIYundefined
                      DADIY
                      last edited by

                      DC42 - Just wondering if the wiring shown in the BOM for your Kossel design is still valid for the production version of the smart effector?

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                      • jannisjundefined
                        jannisj
                        last edited by

                        I have been looking at the Zesty Nimble remote direct drive extruder.
                        Would it be difficult getting this to work with the pcb effector?

                        Any thoughts on making a dual hotend pcb effector?
                        It would be really nice to print supports with pva on extruder 2 🙂

                        -Jannis

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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957
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                          The Zesty Nimble already will work on this effector exactly what I have on my Beta test one.

                          Doug

                          Sorry for the poor image Quality but you get the Idea

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                          • Hergonowayundefined
                            Hergonoway
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                            Dumb question, there's a jumper to switch from 12 to 24v, is it just to select the VIN you've got right, it doesn't let you plug 12v fan on a 24 VIN ?

                            Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957
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                              I Suspect and am sure David will confirm that it is to allow for the LED's to work of both a 12 and 24V system and that the Fans still need to be suitable for the Vin that you are using.

                              at least that's how I have mine set up.

                              Doug

                              It is absolutley the bees knees as well I am getting spot on results from my autocal on the delta of dev's of 6-7 microns and a pretty flat bed map as well.

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                              • Rommieundefined
                                Rommie
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                                Is there a spot to use a beard air system on the effector too not. It iced any holes for a pass through. I know Doug, myself, luckless and Brian to name a couple have this installed.

                                I'm jealous of Doug getting to try that lol I might go steal it lol

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                                • Dougal1957undefined
                                  Dougal1957
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                                  No there isn't Rommie But I have designed a part to replace there Fan attachment so that the Berdair tube can be fitted but it may need adjusting slightly depending on the Diameter of the pipe that hopefully you have sent up to me lol.

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                                  • Dougal1957undefined
                                    Dougal1957
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                                    Also I don't have the STL for the Nimble adaptor but it is on Shapeways still for about £6 Sure Lykle will send it to you or publish it on Thingyverse now we know that the hole spacing etc on the top of the collar is not going to change

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                                    • Zesty_Lykleundefined
                                      Zesty_Lykle
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                                      Thanks for the remind Doug!

                                      I have published the adapter on Thingiverse. Quite a simple little design really.
                                      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

                                      Lykle
                                      Design, make and enjoy life

                                      Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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                                      • Rommieundefined
                                        Rommie
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                                        @Zesty_Lykle:

                                        Thanks for the remind Doug!

                                        I have published the adapter on Thingiverse. Quite a simple little design really.
                                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2453322

                                        I'll grab one of shapeways as I know it will be perfect

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                                        • MiRundefined
                                          MiR
                                          last edited by

                                          Will the new hotend mount be mandatory to be able to use the new effector?

                                          If yes then it would be great if you could offer a bundle, that will help to reduce customs costs for importing because everything is shipped in one package from one vendor.

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            Yes we will offer a kit comprising the effector + carriage adapters + connectors + custom E3Dv6 heatsink. You will be able to order other E3Dv6 parts at the same time if you want.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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