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    • Bewarenundefined
      Bewaren @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux one thing I have noticed is the hotend cooling fan on the heat sink is in fact 12v and does function correctly but seems to be running faster than anticipated, when powered via 12v it is significantly slower than the current setup, so I am assuming it is a 24v output from the board however unsure as to how this is happening as I would imagine it would break the fan

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren
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        @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

        @phaedrux 24V DC fan, 2 pin output, wired up correctly, very confused as to what the issue could be now, the link shows how to use a 12v fan on a 24v output as far as I can tell, but I am very new to the technical terms used so may be misinterpreting it.

        You need a buck converter to supply a 12v line into the v_fan jumper pin. But then all your fans need to be 12v.

        If you have some 24v and some 12v you're going to have some issues. The hotend fan is being over volted and while it is working now it's likely to burn out when you least want it to happen.

        Make sure the fans are all the same voltage and supply them with the correct voltage. It's as simple as that.

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        • Bewarenundefined
          Bewaren @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux Alright ill order a 24v fan for the hotend heatsink to solve that issue then, so any idea on what else I could try to get the print fan working?, it's 24v, I've tried 3 of them now with no luck on the always on pins and the fan0 to fan2 pins, I'm certain it isn't the fans them selves, the pins work fine when I try power the 12v fan but they over voltage the fan, however the 24v fan simply doesn't do anything. Suggestions?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren
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            @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

            Suggestions?

            What exactly is your M106 fan command in config.g right now?
            If you send M106 P0 S1 H-1 in the gcode console does it turn on?

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman @Bewaren
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              @bewaren You also need to have tool selected. The easiest way to do that is to add T0 to the end of your config.g file.

              Ian
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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @deckingman
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                @deckingman said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                @bewaren You also need to have tool selected. The easiest way to do that is to add T0 to the end of your config.g file.

                If the print cooling fan is connected to the Fan0 output, you don't need to select a tool to run it.

                @Bewaren, does the fan run if you connect it to an always-on fan output?

                M106 P0 S0.1 I0 F500 H T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                That line in config.g was wrong. The H without a number after it will be interpreted as H0. Remove the H, or change it to H-1.

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                • Bewarenundefined
                  Bewaren @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 this is my current fan command

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                  • Bewarenundefined
                    Bewaren @deckingman
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                    @deckingman Tool is selected yes, still nothing though

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                    • Bewarenundefined
                      Bewaren @dc42
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                      @dc42 M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 is the line now, still no luck, it also doesn't work even when connected to the always-on fan outputs, but I have tried 3 different fans, all brand new, very unlikely all 3 are faulty.

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                      • Bewarenundefined
                        Bewaren
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                        @phaedrux Tried sending M106 P0 S1 H-1, it did nothing

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                        • Bewarenundefined
                          Bewaren
                          last edited by

                          Tried another pack of 24v fans and a 12v fan, 12v fan was over voltaged but worked, 24v fans did nothing, is there somewhere I have to define that the fans I am using are 24v?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren
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                            @bewaren it really seems like the 24v fans are dead.

                            Can you setup a test with just power from the 24v PSU directly to the fans to remove the duet completely from the equation?

                            If the 12v fans work but the 24v don't then it must be the 24v fan that isn't working. You can carefully measure the voltage on the fan pins to verify.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @Bewaren
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                              @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                              Tried another pack of 24v fans and a 12v fan, 12v fan was over voltage but worked, 24v fans did nothing, is there somewhere I have to define that the fans I am using are 24v?

                              Are you sure that you have the VFAN jumper set to VIN, not to 5V?

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                              • Bewarenundefined
                                Bewaren @dc42
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                                @dc42 I am unsure, what pins should I have the jumper on?, its currently on the two right hand pins if looking at it from: https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/YN2oahyGpcPNN1Pw.huge | assuming that the jumper in question is the 3 pin one central to the 5 fan pins.

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                                  dc42 administrators @Bewaren
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                                  @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                                  @dc42 I am unsure, what pins should I have the jumper on?, its currently on the two right hand pins if looking at it from: https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/YN2oahyGpcPNN1Pw.huge | assuming that the jumper in question is the 3 pin one central to the 5 fan pins.

                                  That's correct, it's the right hand position if you are looking at the Duet with the stepper motor outputs at the top.

                                  To state the obvious: are you sure that the Duet is receiving 24V? If you send M122 to the Duet, the diagnostic report will include the VIN voltage.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • Bewarenundefined
                                    Bewaren @dc42
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                                    @dc42 M122
                                    === Diagnostics ===
                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later
                                    Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MSD-6JKDA-3SN6Q-TST39
                                    Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (6 max)
                                    === RTOS ===
                                    Static ram: 25680
                                    Dynamic ram: 93280 of which 380 recycled
                                    Exception stack ram used: 260
                                    Never used ram: 11472
                                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,652) HEAT(blocked,1236) MAIN(running,3780) IDLE(ready,160)
                                    Owned mutexes:
                                    === Platform ===
                                    Last reset 00:00:19 ago, cause: power up
                                    Last software reset at 2019-07-29 14:33, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11472 bytes (slot 3)
                                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                    Error status: 0
                                    Free file entries: 10
                                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                    MCU temperature: min -64.2, current -57.9, max -57.9
                                    Supply voltage: min 16.7, current 16.9, max 17.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                    Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                    Date/time: 2019-07-29 17:01:52
                                    Cache data hit count 44910390
                                    Slowest loop: 1.10ms; fastest: 0.07ms
                                    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                    === Move ===
                                    Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 169, MaxWait: 0ms
                                    Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                    === DDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                                    === Heat ===
                                    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                    === GCodes ===
                                    Segments left: 0
                                    Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
                                    Movement lock held by null
                                    http is idle in state(s) 0
                                    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                    file is idle in state(s) 0
                                    serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                    aux is assembling a command in state(s) 0
                                    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                    queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                    Code queue is empty.
                                    === Network ===
                                    Slowest loop: 4.33ms; fastest: 0.02ms
                                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                    Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex

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                                    • Bewarenundefined
                                      Bewaren
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                                      From what I can tell its getting 17v?, I may be incorrect though

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @Bewaren
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                                        @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                                        From what I can tell its getting 17v?, I may be incorrect though

                                        Is your mains voltage 120V? If so, check whether your PSU has an input voltage selector switch that is set to 230V.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                        • Bewarenundefined
                                          Bewaren
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                                          The PSU is set to 220v atm. Could it be that the PSU is faulty or have I maybe bought a PSU that wont work with this board?, this is what I am using.

                                          https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071W121H7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @Bewaren
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                                            @bewaren said in Duet Ethernet with 24v fan:

                                            The PSU is set to 220v atm. Could it be that the PSU is faulty or have I maybe bought a PSU that wont work with this board?, this is what I am using.

                                            https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071W121H7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                                            That PSU looks OK unless you are using a high powered bed heater.

                                            What is your local mains voltage? Your profile doesn't give your location.

                                            If you have a multimeter, use it to measure the voltage across the VIN terminals.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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