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    • Leblondundefined
      Leblond
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      25/10/2020, 20:56:11 G32 bed probe heights: 0.198 0.195 0.195 0.198 0.195 0.200 0.195 0.200 0.192 0.195, mean 0.196, deviation from mean 0.002
      25/10/2020, 20:55:37 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.180 0.180 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.180 0.180 0.183, mean 0.181, deviation from mean 0.001
      25/10/2020, 20:55:04 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.178 0.173 0.170 0.178 0.173 0.173 0.178 0.178 0.173, mean 0.175, deviation from mean 0.004
      25/10/2020, 20:54:31 M98 P"0:/macros/Calibrazione a punto singolo/Calibrazione x 10"
      G32 bed probe heights: 0.195 0.192 0.192 0.195 0.192 0.195 0.195 0.195 0.188 0.195, mean 0.194, deviation from mean 0.002

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      • Leblondundefined
        Leblond
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        I'm retrying cold-meshing the plate to see if we've made any improvements

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        • Leblondundefined
          Leblond
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          20x20 temperatura ambiente_secondo tentativo.jpg

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          • Leblondundefined
            Leblond
            last edited by

            no improvement

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              it seems to be very consistent.

              can you turn the glass 90 degrees?

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              • OwenDundefined
                OwenD
                last edited by

                Is the X carriage on wheels?
                I'm not familiar with the printer and can't tell from the photos I've seen,
                Almost looks like an eccentric wheel causing the nozzle to rise & fall with each rotation

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                • Leblondundefined
                  Leblond
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                  20201026_131106.jpg
                  20201026_131116.jpg

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                  • Leblondundefined
                    Leblond
                    last edited by

                    Yes, the trolley is on rails and has eccentrics

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                    • peter247undefined
                      peter247 @Leblond
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                      @Leblond

                      level 3.png

                      I've had the same problem once , it was the x axis wheels and stopped the ripple with linear rails , but I guess getting better would have fixed it too.

                      Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                      • Leblondundefined
                        Leblond @Veti
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                        @Veti yes I have already tried to rotate it 90 degrees, but no improvement

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                        • Leblondundefined
                          Leblond @peter247
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                          @peter247 in practice they had?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Leblond
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                            @Leblond said in Triangular wave and print area:

                            Yes, the trolley is on rails and has eccentrics

                            I don't think he's talking about eccentric nuts to adjust wheel tension, I think he means the wheel itself may be out of round.

                            Is the spacing between the peaks equivalent to a full rotation of the wheel?

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                            • Leblondundefined
                              Leblond @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux ok, but I tried to move it manually without the belt to see if it was free and so it was, do you think the bearings need to be changed?

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Well the real question is does mesh compensation work to produce a good first layer?

                                Do a test print once with mesh enabled and another with it disabled. You should be able to tell if the mesh is accurate or not.

                                bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

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                                • Leblondundefined
                                  Leblond @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux ok I will try in the meantime I disassembled the x axis turned the bearings
                                  "just to give it a try while I was waiting for some advice from you" and now I've reassembled it and put it back to making a cold mesh to see if anything has changed, then I'll try to print to see if the mesh works or not, tomorrow I will post the results with and without mesh, for the moment thanks @Phaedrux.

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                                  • Leblondundefined
                                    Leblond @Phaedrux
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                                    @Phaedrux looking at the graphic mesh and checking the coordinates of X which are spaced by 20mm, in 60mm the wheel should make a full turn, I did a free test: I lowered the probe stem I raised the Z axis until it touches the flat, at this point I moved the X axis by 60mm and about 30mm it raised and then lowered in the remaining 30mm, you know you were right the bearings are gone

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
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                                      have you decided what to do about it?
                                      new bearings or linear rail conversion?

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                                      • Leblondundefined
                                        Leblond @Veti
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                                        @Veti think about changing bearings? some idea?

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                                        • Leblondundefined
                                          Leblond @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti converting it would cost me time would i have to create the pieces and have them made

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti @Leblond
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                                            @Leblond
                                            depends on where you live
                                            A good place to start are the original openparts store
                                            https://openbuildspartstore.com/metal-v-wheel-kit/
                                            https://openbuildspartstore.com/ball-bearing-625-2rs-5x16x5/
                                            (check that the size is the same as yours)

                                            alternative these are recommended for the voron 2 printer and are supposed to be high quality
                                            https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32991204773.html

                                            look for high quality bearings ABEC-7 or above ( ABEC-9)

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