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    • Dan1990undefined
      Dan1990 @Phaedrux
      last edited by Dan1990

      @Phaedrux

      Did that, the RRF notified me after PID tuning!

      I am so amazed by the firmware!

      Worth the money!

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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        @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

        My chamber heater is not powerful enough to reach 1,7oC/ sec.

        Can you share the tuned results for the chamber heater? Increasing the dead time value can sometimes help.

        Share the entire config.g as well.

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        • Dan1990undefined
          Dan1990 @Phaedrux
          last edited by Dan1990

          @Phaedrux

          ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Sun Jan 10 2021 17:23:39 GMT+0000 (GMT)

          ; General preferences
          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name

          ; Drives
          M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
          M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
          M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
          M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
          M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X201.27 Y201.23 Z800.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
          M671 X-20:220 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
          M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
          M208 X220 Y220 Z240 S0 ; set axis maxima

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 S1 P"!io0.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io0.in
          M574 Y1 S1 P"!io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
          M574 Z1 S1 P"!io2.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin io2.in

          ; Z-Probe
          ;;M558 P5 C"^io3.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
          ;G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          ;M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
          M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
          M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

          M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
          M950 H2 C"out2" T2 ; create chamber heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 2
          M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the chamber heater and set PWM limit
          M141 H2 ; map chamber to heater 2
          M143 H2 S100 A0 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 100C
          M301 H2 B1

          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
          M106 P0 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
          M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
          M106 P1 S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Custom settings are not defined

          ; Miscellaneous
          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

          The PID as below:

          Heater 2 model: gain 340.0, time constant 140.0, dead time 5.5, max PWM 1.oo, calibration voltage 0.0, mode PID
          Computed PID parameters for setpoint change P13.4, I0, 482, D51,4
          Computed PID parameters for load change P13.4 i0.949, D51.4

          Could you advise me on how to invert the Z2 motor, I did the Z1.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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            @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

            Could you advise me on how to invert the Z2 motor, I did the Z1.

            I don't know what you mean by this.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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              @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

              Heater 2 model: gain 340.0, time constant 140.0, dead time 5.5, max PWM 1.oo, calibration voltage 0.0, mode PID
              Computed PID parameters for setpoint change P13.4, I0, 482, D51,4
              Computed PID parameters for load change P13.4 i0.949, D51.4

              Share the contents of your config-override.g so we can see the actual formatted M307 commands

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              • Dan1990undefined
                Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux

                I am sorry for not being clear enough,

                I have two Z-axis, I have changed the rotation of Z1 (rotating anticlockwise) but Z2 rotating clockwise

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                • Dan1990undefined
                  Dan1990 @Phaedrux
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                  @Phaedrux

                  ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2021-01-05 16:33

                  ; Heater model parameters
                  M307 H0 R0.000 C495.100:140.000 D0.80 S1.00 V24.0 B0
                  M307 H1 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                  M307 H2 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                  ; Workplace coordinates
                  G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                  G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                    @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                    M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
                    M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                    M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                    M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 ; set drive mapping

                    You only have a single Z driver defined, so I'm surprised the other is turning at all. Which driver are you using for Z1 and which for Z2?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                      @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                      M307 H0 R0.000 C495.100:140.000 D0.80 S1.00 V24.0 B0
                      M307 H1 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      M307 H2 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0

                      I find it odd that your hotend heater and chamber heater are using the same values.

                      I suggest you re-run the PID turning for each heater in turn and then save the results again with M500

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                      • Dan1990undefined
                        Dan1990 @Phaedrux
                        last edited by Dan1990

                        @Phaedrux

                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
                        M671 X-20:220 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
                        M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

                        See above, I have read that I should add those g-codes and it is in the file

                        I am using 0.4 pin

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Ah I see now.

                          M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
                          M671 X-20:220 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
                          M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

                          The M584 you have needs to move up and replace the one above it that I quoted.

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                          • Dan1990undefined
                            Dan1990 @Phaedrux
                            last edited by Dan1990

                            @Phaedrux

                            Silly me, I should notice that, changing that right away.

                            I will perform PID tuning and will paste the results here.

                            Btw: Should the Diagnostic LED blink all the time? I have Duet 3.
                            I have read that is normal but prefer to confirm

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                              Btw: Should the Diagnostic LED blink all the time? I have Duet 3.
                              I have read that is normal but prefer to confirm

                              yes that is normal

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                              • Dan1990undefined
                                Dan1990
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                                The PID from yesterday tunning as follow:

                                ; config-override.g file generated in response to M500 at 2021-01-05 16:59

                                ; Heater model parameters
                                M307 H0 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                M307 H1 R0.000 C167.200:140.000 D4.50 S1.00 V24.1 B0
                                M307 H2 R0.000 C231.100:140.000 D4.60 S1.00 V24.1 B0
                                ; Workplace coordinates
                                G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                                G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00

                                I have runout into one problem. When I tried to do homing the all axis are behaving kind of strange. They are doing normal homing, moving towards endstop, engaging them and repreating that like in the loop.

                                I checked the endstops by M119, all of the are working.

                                Any idea what that could be?

                                Thats the homeall.g file:

                                ; homeall.g
                                ; called to home all axes
                                ;
                                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Sun Jan 10 2021 17:23:39 GMT+0000 (GMT)
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 H1 X-225 Y-225 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                                G1 H1 X-225 Y-225 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                G1 H1 Z-245 F360 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                                G90 ; absolute positioning
                                G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                                ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G90 ; absolute positioning

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                                • Dan1990undefined
                                  Dan1990
                                  last edited by Dan1990

                                  Can that be related to M122?

                                  When I do diagnostic it says M122 response too long, see the console.

                                  M122 below:

                                  M122
                                  === Diagnostics ===
                                  RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.01-RC9 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later
                                  Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TJ-6JTD4-3S06M-KV8GSUsed output buffers: 1 of 40 (12 max)
                                  === RTOS ===
                                  Static ram: 154572
                                  Dynamic ram: 162108 of which 52 recycled
                                  Exception stack ram used: 216
                                  Never used ram: 76268
                                  Tasks: NETWORK(ready,2076) HEAT(blocked,1184) CanReceiv(suspended,3824) CanSender(suspended,1484) CanClock(blocked,1432) TMC(blocked,216) MAIN(running,4444) IDLE(ready,80)
                                  Owned mutexes:
                                  === Platform ===
                                  Last reset 00:07:50 ago, cause: power up
                                  Last software reset at 2021-01-05 17:38, reason: User, spinning module LinuxInterface, available RAM 76036 bytes (slot 3)
                                  Software reset code 0x0010 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0444a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                  Error status: 0
                                  Free file entries: 10
                                  SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
                                  SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                  MCU temperature: min 28.5, current 28.8, max 28.9
                                  Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.1, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                  12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
                                  Driver 0: standstill, reads 57130, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                  Driver 1: standstill, reads 57129, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                  Driver 2: standstill, reads 57130, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                  Driver 3: standstill, reads 57130, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                  Driver 4: standstill, reads 57130, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                  Driver 5: standstill, reads 57130, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                                  Date/time: 2021-01-14 13:11:15
                                  Slowest loop: 3.55ms; fastest: 0.21ms
                                  === Move ===
                                  Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 375, MinFreeDm: 375, MaxWait: 0ms
                                  Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                  === MainDDARing ===
                                  Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                  === AuxDDARing ===
                                  Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                  === Heat ===
                                  Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = 2 -1 -1 -1
                                  === GCodes ===
                                  Segments left: 0
                                  Movement lock held by null
                                  HTTP* is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0
                                  Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                  File is idle in state(s) 0
                                  USB is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                  LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                                  SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Daemon* is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Code queue is empty.
                                  === Network ===
                                  Slowest loop: 0.46ms; fastest: 0.01ms
                                  Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                  HTTP sessions: 0 of 8

                                  • Ethernet -
                                    State: disabled
                                    Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                                    Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                    === CAN ===
                                    Messages sent 258, longest wait 0ms for type 0
                                    === Linux interface ===
                                    State: 0, failed transfers: 1
                                    Last transfer: 17ms ago
                                    RX/TX seq numbers: 17840/17841
                                    SPI underruns 1, overruns 1
                                    Number of disconnects: 0
                                    Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
                                    === Duet Control Server ===
                                    Duet Control Server v3.2.0
                                    Code buffer space: 4096
                                    Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
                                    Full transfers per second: 39.64
                                    Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 3140/624
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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk
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                                    your homing file has 2 homing passes in.
                                    Are you saying the axis approach and back away more than twice?

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • Dan1990undefined
                                      Dan1990 @jay_s_uk
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                                      @jay_s_uk

                                      Yes, it is like the homing file was in the loop.

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                                      • Dan1990undefined
                                        Dan1990
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                                        I have messed up a few things and I am not sure if is better to erase the board and upload a new firmware.

                                        To perform that I have to put a jumper over erase pins?

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                                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                                          jay_s_uk
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                                          the firmware doesn't store any config information.
                                          You'd be best off starting with a new config file from the configurator

                                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @Dan1990
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                                            @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                                            Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.01-RC9

                                            Don't erase the board with the jumper. If you still have DWC access it's much easier to just update the firmware there. Wiping the firmware and re-flashing with USB is a last resort.

                                            Just upload this zip file to the system tab in the web interface.

                                            https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.2/Duet2and3Firmware-3.2.zip

                                            If you get any error messages, or if the firmware doesn't actually apply when you check the version with M115, you can use this method.

                                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Updating_Duet_3_from_RRF3_0_Beta_12_to_3_0_Final_via_DWC

                                            @Dan1990 said in Duet 3 - New user - few quires:

                                            M307 H0 R0.000 C140.000:140.000 D5.50 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                                            M307 H1 R0.000 C167.200:140.000 D4.50 S1.00 V24.1 B0
                                            M307 H2 R0.000 C231.100:140.000 D4.60 S1.00 V24.1 B0

                                            The tuned values look much better now.

                                            How many times was it bouncing in a loop when homing?

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