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        Atraedes @Veti
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        @Veti cheers mate

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          Atraedes @Phaedrux
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          @Phaedrux M122
          === Diagnostics ===
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
          Board ID: 08DJM-9178L-L2MS8-6JKFL-3SD6N-KVGQN
          Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (17 max)
          === RTOS ===
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          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,832) MAIN(running,3728) IDLE(ready,160)
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          MCU temperature: min 28.3, current 28.4, max 28.8
          Supply voltage: min 26.3, current 26.4, max 26.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
          Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
          Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
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          Date/time: 2021-01-11 21:09:04
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          • Atraedesundefined
            Atraedes
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            @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

            M305 P1 T100000 B3950

            so M305 P1 T100000 B3950 is the g code for the standard epcos 100k thermistor i can install instead? and then just wire it to the conventional thermistor terminal instead and simply remove the daughter board?

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

              Supply voltage: min 26.3, current 26.4, max 26.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes

              Your power supply seems to be tuned a bit high. Can you carefully check the output voltage with a multimeter?

              Are you sure your hotend heater cartridge is 24v?

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @Atraedes
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                @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                @Phaedrux said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                so M305 P1 T100000 B3950 is the g code for the standard epcos 100k thermistor i can install instead? and then just wire it to the conventional thermistor terminal instead and simply remove the daughter board?

                Correct.

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                  Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                  @Phaedrux i thought so to lol, but the multimeter is at the inlaws and i cant get it back, lockdown lol, but thanks, i will check it when i get it back

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                  • Atraedesundefined
                    Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                    @Phaedrux fantastic, many thanks, so programme the G-Code first and then wire it in, or it doesn't matter? I cant say for sure about the heater cartridge as i have so many spares lying around it might very well be a 12v but I didn't think it was due to its size, but now that i can rewire to the standard thermistor i have the complete hotend for the direct drive rig, sir, thanks again for your assistance, much appreciated!

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      If your PSU has a trim pot for adjusting the output voltage try giving it a slight tweak and see if it reduces the value in the M122 a bit. Aim for 24v.

                      Then if you connect your new thermistor and run a PID tuning see if the warning is the same. If it still estimates a 1000c+ max temp you should beware.

                      You can also check your thermistor resistance with a multimeter to see if it's closer to 12v or 24v, but.. multimeter...

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                      • Atraedesundefined
                        Atraedes @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux thanks, ive just sent the comand and this came back, is this ok to now rewire or is there a problem? it says error...
                        M305 P1 T100000 B3950
                        Heater 1 uses PT100 (MAX31865) sensor channel 200, last error: short-circuit in sensor, 2/4 wires, reject 50Hz, reference resistor 400 ohms

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          You should make the change to config.g and then reboot. You can rewire whenever you wish.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @Atraedes
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                            @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                            M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                            actually the epocs is T98801 B4185

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                            • Atraedesundefined
                              Atraedes
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                              @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                              M305 P1 T100000 B3950

                              Great, thanks, so instead then - M305 P1 T100000 B4185 ?

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                @Veti said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                T98801 B4185

                                M305 P1 T98801 B4185

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                                • Atraedesundefined
                                  Atraedes
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                                  @Atraedes said in Changing pt100 to standard thermistor:

                                  ; Tool 0
                                  M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                                  M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                  great, thanks, so change it here in config :
                                  ; Tool 0
                                  M307 H1 A1230.8 C312.7 D7.2 S1.00 V26.3 B0
                                  M305 P1 X200 ; Set PT100 + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                  So change M305 to the code you said, change M143 to new max temp on new hotend, thanks again for all

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                                  • Atraedesundefined
                                    Atraedes
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                                    Hi @Phaedrux, thanks again for your help, it worked great, however, after i did the pid tune i tried to save it with M500 but it says "Warning: No M501 command was executed in config.g", ive since done a couple test prints also and it has flagged up "Error: Heating fault on heater 1" a couple of times, im stumped, the wiring is fine and checked, not sure where to go or why it doesnt take the M500 command

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                                      Stephen6309 @Atraedes
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                                      @Atraedes You need a M510 at the end of config,g.

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                                      • Atraedesundefined
                                        Atraedes
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                                        thanks, tried it, it says "Warning: M510 command is not supported"

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M500_Store_parameters

                                          M500 saves to config-override.g, and M501 loads it. You need to add M501 to the end of config.g to load the saved values at startup.

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                                          • Atraedesundefined
                                            Atraedes
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                                            the sd card is buried deep in the machine also so i cant easily get to it without taking the bottom of etc.., i just assumed i could do everything via the console?

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