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    dmbgo
    last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 22:52

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    Regards David Maher

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      fcwilt @dmbgo
      last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 22:56

      @dmbgo said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

      I am using ABS filament.

      Do you have a heated enclosure?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        alankilian
        last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 22:58

        I'm afraid I'm out of my experience zone with ABS.

        I have read not to use fans for the first 3 layers, but that's not your problem.

        Do you see filament extruding on the back cornets?

        Do you hear your extruder struggling/clicking when that happens?

        Can you rotate the cube 180-degrees to see if it then happens on the front?

        Can you rotate the entire printer 180-degrees to see if it changes due to airflow?

        Do you have an enclosure?

        My only ABS experience is using a Stratasys where everything is controlled for me and it works perfectly.

        Someone with more ABS experience will probably jump in next and hopefully be able to help you more than I can.

        SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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          dmbgo
          last edited by dmbgo 16 Jan 2021, 23:00

          I do have, but the printer isn't in it at present while I'm working on it. I usually drop the bed temp down when the printer's in there.

          20210117_095836.jpg

          Regards David Maher

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            fcwilt
            last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 23:06

            From what I have read ABS really needs a heated enclosure BUT I don't know if that is related to your problem.

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              dmbgo
              last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 23:09

              @alankilian said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

              1/ Do you see filament extruding on the back cornets?
              2/ Do you hear your extruder struggling/clicking when that happens?
              3/ Can you rotate the cube 180-degrees to see if it then happens on the front?
              4/Can you rotate the entire printer 180-degrees to see if it changes due to airflow?
              5/Do you have an enclosure?

              1/ Back cornets?
              2/No clicking, extruding nicely when I move it up and extrude some filament.
              3/I should have mentioned that I had done that, it still happens on the rear (mainly)
              4/The pinter is on a wheeled trolley, I have tried that. Ambient temp is 18.4C atm.

              Regards David Maher

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                dmbgo
                last edited by dmbgo 16 Jan 2021, 23:12

                "From what I have read ABS really needs a heated enclosure BUT I don't know if that is related to your problem. Frederick"

                Yes, I found that out a while ago, which is why I made the one in the pic. It is made from 50mm expanded foam, coated with thin fiberglass panels. The material came from an old coolroom.

                Regards David Maher

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                  dmbgo
                  last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 23:38

                  But the issue remains. Any other helpful suggestions, they've been good so far?

                  Regards David Maher

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                    fcwilt @dmbgo
                    last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 23:43

                    @dmbgo said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

                    But the issue remains. Any other helpful suggestions, they've been good so far?

                    Instead of printing a cube can you create a model of a disc, say, 50 mm in diameter and 5 mm thick?

                    If you can print it using you normal settings.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      dmbgo
                      last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 23:43

                      Here's a pic of the printer:

                      20210117_104005.jpg

                      Regards David Maher

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                        dmbgo
                        last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 23:46

                        Sorry Fredrick, but my modelling capability is V low. Could you please suggest a model from thingiverse or somewhere?

                        Regards David Maher

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                          fcwilt @dmbgo
                          last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 00:15

                          @dmbgo said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

                          Sorry Fredrick, but my modelling capability is V low. Could you please suggest a model from thingiverse or somewhere?

                          Here you go.

                          Slice it normally but keep the layer cooling fan(s) off.

                          Frederick

                          Disc 050 x 005.stl

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            dmbgo
                            last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 00:17

                            Thanks Fredrick

                            Regards David Maher

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                              dmbgo
                              last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 00:28

                              @dmbgo said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

                              Thanks Fredrick

                              Printing now

                              Regards David Maher

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                                fcwilt @dmbgo
                                last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 00:39

                                @dmbgo said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

                                Printing now

                                I will check back in a bit.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  dmbgo
                                  last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 01:06

                                  Where are you Fredrick? If it is too late at night, we can leave it until tomorrow.

                                  Regards David Maher

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                                    fcwilt @dmbgo
                                    last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 01:11

                                    @dmbgo I'm here.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      dmbgo
                                      last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 01:12

                                      The disk is printing at 30 mm/s. It will probably take about 20mins more.

                                      Regards David Maher

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                                        fcwilt @dmbgo
                                        last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 01:13

                                        @dmbgo said in Problem with rear side of Test Cube:

                                        The disk is printing at 30 mm/s. It will probably take about 20mins more.

                                        What does it look like so far?

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          dmbgo
                                          last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 01:17

                                          disk progress.jpg

                                          Regards David Maher

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