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    Surgikill @Phaedrux
    last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 14:48

    @phaedrux It is most definitely primed. I have 9 of these parts I print simultaneously and it happens on every single one exactly the same.

    @dc42 I extrude anywhere from 55-110mm of filament before the 10mm to purge and prime the nozzle, so yes, there is a ton of filament that comes out of the nozzle.

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      o_lampe @Surgikill
      last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 15:03

      @surgikill
      does your extruder setup require higher 'chamber pressure'? It seems logical to believe, a long purge will do. But you purge in free air and the oozing filament even pulls on the molten filament in the heater chamber.
      Chamber pressure begins to build up, when the nozzle is in print position above the part. Even 'pressure advance' can't help here.

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        Surgikill @o_lampe
        last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 15:35

        @o_lampe It's a hemera. There should be plenty of print moves to "build up" chamber pressure before it moves onto the next layer. It would also show issues with retractions as well, which it does not, and it is even on all of the parts. I think it might be an issue with my Z axis not moving back into place correctly.

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 17:25

          It does sound like a z height issue then, either mechanical or maybe thermal?

          But you show that it doesn't happen every time, correct? So what is different between the times it happens and doesn't happen?

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            Surgikill @Phaedrux
            last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 17:27

            @phaedrux No idea. I think it's mechanical. I'll look into my couplers and lead screws. I have no idea what happened to the one where it worked correctly. I'll change my pause and resume g-codes so it doesn't change Z height and we'll see what happens.

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              engikeneer @Surgikill
              last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 22:24

              @surgikill are you physically/manually loading filament into the hemera for the filament change? Could it be that there is some flex/backlash in your carriage so that it sits a bit different after a tug to pull out the old filament (or a shove to push the new one in)?

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                Surgikill @engikeneer
                last edited by 21 Apr 2021, 22:27

                @engikeneer Doubtful. 16mm rods on the y axis and 12mm rods on the x axis and it's really rigid, besides the fact that I just use the load/unload macro, so I don't really push on anything. I'm running a test print right now. My z couplers are kind of fucked up, so I'm guessing that's the issue.

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                  o_lampe @Surgikill
                  last edited by 22 Apr 2021, 06:01

                  @surgikill said in Help with multi color printing:

                  My z couplers are kind of fucked up, so I'm guessing that's the issue.

                  You are lifting the gantry with the Z-motors? On my first Prusa i3, i placed 4.5mm steel balls between stepper shaft and leadscrew.
                  That way I could eliminate compression of the couplers from the changing weight and inertia of the moving extruder.

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                    Surgikill @o_lampe
                    last edited by 22 Apr 2021, 13:33

                    @o_lampe It's a corexy. There are 4 Z motors. I need to get the spider couplers instead of the spring couplers.

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                      Surgikill
                      last edited by 22 Apr 2021, 17:18

                      Yeah, definitely my Z-axis. I ran some prints and changed my pause and resume to not lift Z and the indentation is gone. Looks like I need to get some pillow block bearings for the leadscrews and new couplers.

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