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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @itslikeboo
      last edited by fcwilt

      @itslikeboo

      You mean the silvery spring looking things going off screen?

      Could you post a picture showing the other end?

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • itslikebooundefined
        itslikeboo @fcwilt
        last edited by itslikeboo

        @fcwilt
        Right.
        Let me know if this clears anything up.
        IMG_3413.jpg

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @itslikeboo
          last edited by

          @itslikeboo

          Thanks.

          All is clear.

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • o_lampeundefined
            o_lampe @itslikeboo
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            @itslikeboo
            Congrats, that looks clean and simple!
            One thing I don't grasp is the hotend fan: It would sit on the outer effector, right?
            When you park the tool, will there be another fan to take over cooling the heatsink?

            @cosmowave
            Hi, do you think I could use your vacuum pump to replace the magnets? The weight of the tool will hold it down anyway, so the pump wouldn't fight against gravity. (Which would be the case in my design)

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            • itslikebooundefined
              itslikeboo @o_lampe
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              @o_lampe
              Thanks! The Mosquito comes with a small hotend fan that's attached to the heatsink. So it follows the tool when it's picked up and parked. You can make it out in the video. For tools that need a fan that can't fit through the inner diameter of the effector's torus, there would need to be another solution.

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              • cosmowaveundefined
                cosmowave @o_lampe
                last edited by

                @o_lampe said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

                Hi, do you think I could use your vacuum pump to replace the magnets? The weight of the tool will hold it down anyway, so the pump wouldn't fight against gravity. (Which would be the case in my design)

                You have to try it!

                Mankati FSXT+, DeltaTowerV2, E3D MS/TC

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                • itslikebooundefined
                  itslikeboo @o_lampe
                  last edited by

                  @o_lampe
                  What's this vacuum pump?

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                  • o_lampeundefined
                    o_lampe @itslikeboo
                    last edited by

                    @itslikeboo
                    It's similar to this
                    Cosmowave borrowed me his pump to test how good it would suck on our common steelballs on Delta effectors. I wanted to get rid of the magnets (Haydn Huntleys Mag-arms are very good, but heavy)
                    It's yet untested, but if it'd work, your locking mechanism would be much easier.

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                    • itslikebooundefined
                      itslikeboo @o_lampe
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                      @o_lampe
                      Very cool! I went towards traditional joints for that very reason. Although, I will admit there might be a bit of play in mine. Keep me posted if you go down that route!

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @o_lampe
                        last edited by

                        @o_lampe said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

                        Haydn Huntleys Mag-arms are very good, but heavy

                        Do they add enough weight to make a significant difference in performance?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • o_lampeundefined
                          o_lampe @fcwilt
                          last edited by o_lampe

                          @fcwilt
                          Six magnets with steelballs weight 85gr. That's almost the same as my direct drive extruder. For Bowden extruders, it's even more significant.
                          With input shaping we can iron out a lot of ringing, so it's less of a problem I guess.

                          [OT]
                          In 2018 I started experimenting with Delrin ball effectors and rubber bands.
                          Maybe, if I replace/support the rubber band with vacuum, it'll hold stronger. I'd go for six Delrin balls now.

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                          • itslikebooundefined
                            itslikeboo
                            last edited by

                            Added a second tool:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUtPNZ3ag4

                            This tool gets knocked around a bit during changes even though it's a mirror of the first tool and I'm not positive why. But the tool seems like it seats just as firmly as the first. Still need to mess around.

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                            • itslikebooundefined
                              itslikeboo
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                              I should mention, I do plan on uploading all the files to thingiverse. My Fusion 360 skills are abysmal and I need to do some cleanup before I put them up.

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                              • itslikebooundefined
                                itslikeboo @itslikeboo
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                                Work has been busy but I've finally got around to fooling around with dual color printing. Print quality is superb. Some of the changes themselves are a little rough but consistent enough for the most part!

                                Here's a quick video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBPeQnealA

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                                • breedundefined
                                  breed @itslikeboo
                                  last edited by

                                  @itslikeboo I love this project. Hope to do something similar on one of my anycubic predators except with two smart effectors. Keep up the good work.

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                                  • bbergerundefined
                                    bberger @breed
                                    last edited by

                                    @breed same here

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                                    • itslikebooundefined
                                      itslikeboo @breed
                                      last edited by

                                      @breed
                                      Thanks!
                                      I spent a bit of time trying to figure out how to create a tool changer with the smart effector. Ultimately, couldn't really get anywhere. But I'd love to see it.

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                                      • breedundefined
                                        breed @itslikeboo
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                                        @itslikebooUntitled1.jpg

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                                        • oliofundefined
                                          oliof @breed
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                                          @breed I would worry that that magnetic coupling is not enough to keep the smart effector in place during probing -- otherwise a good first iteration. My worries may be unfounded.

                                          <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                                          • breedundefined
                                            breed @oliof
                                            last edited by

                                            @oliof don't think that will be a prob. I'm more worried about the motors skipping steps trying to separate the balls and magnets. They are pretty stout.

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