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    • gnydick
      gnydick last edited by

      I've tuned my machine using the PA calibration python generated model. I find my perfect value, and every model I print has big holes at the start/end point on the perimeters. I know the suggestion is to reduce the amount of retraction used, but I'm only retracting 1mm and it's set to only retract when crossing perimeters, so I don't think it's retracting at all ON the perimeters. 0_1547442414415_IMG_20190113_210446.jpg

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      • deckingman
        deckingman @gnydick last edited by

        @gnydick Are those 2 points indicated in the picture the only areas where the problem exists? If the problem is as you describe, then surely it would affect the entire print. I'd be more inclined to suspect a problem with the gcode of the model itself.

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        • garyd9
          garyd9 @gnydick last edited by

          @gnydick If you turn off pressure advance while printing the exact same gcode file, the problem doesn't appear?

          "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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          • Edgars Batna
            Edgars Batna last edited by Edgars Batna

            What PA value are you using? I found that if I don't crank the extruder jerk all the way down from 4000 to 500 with a PA value of 0.4 or higher, then during some moves there were such "Insane Extruder Step Variations" © that the steppers started losing steps and I'd get holes or overextrusion. The Python script does not test for this and most simplistic models ran fine, but as soon as curves and many small perimeters went into play it just went to hell.

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            • gnydick
              gnydick @Edgars Batna last edited by

              @edgars-batna just .1

              I wasn't getting any sort of skipping. I have direct extrusion, so for me PA is really only about changes in speed, and not also making up for bowden latency.

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              • gnydick
                gnydick @deckingman last edited by

                @deckingman they're all over, but my seems are not always in the same place, so I'd have to rotate the printed model to show you all of them.

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                • gnydick
                  gnydick @garyd9 last edited by

                  @garyd9 I'll try that and let you know

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                  • gnydick
                    gnydick @gnydick last edited by

                    @garyd9 I tried it and they're still there. That's odd because it's only a couple mm of retraction.

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                    • garyd9
                      garyd9 @gnydick last edited by garyd9

                      @gnydick said in Pressure advance possibly not working correctly:

                      @garyd9 I tried it and they're still there. That's odd because it's only a couple mm of retraction.

                      If you turn off pressure advance and the problem still exists, it strongly suggests that pressure advance isn't the issue. (Are you 100% certain that pressure advance wasn't enabled? The best way to be sure is to run M572 from the gcode console while a print is running and verify that the returned value is 0.00.)

                      "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                      • burtoogle
                        burtoogle last edited by

                        Hi @gnydick , could you please post some gcode that has this problem. Thanks.

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                        • Wyvern
                          Wyvern last edited by

                          Layers look thicc, .8 nozzle?

                          Every machine I've used with a .8 or larger exhibits this issue.

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                          • gnydick
                            gnydick @Wyvern last edited by

                            @wyvern yes, .8 nozzle. That could be it.

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                            • Wyvern
                              Wyvern @gnydick last edited by

                              @gnydick I don't know how to fix it or what it is, but it shows on tight curves.
                              .6 is usable for general use, I use .8 for simple geometry parts that need to be strong.

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                              • Martin1454
                                Martin1454 last edited by

                                @Wyvern @gnydick Mabye is it too thin walls for normal 0.8 print - Depending on the slicer, make sure to have "thin walls" or whatever it is called in your slicer to on -

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                                • gnydick
                                  gnydick @Martin1454 last edited by

                                  @martin1454 thanks

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