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    Carlo @NexxCat
    last edited by Carlo 26 Mar 2020, 19:56

    @NexxCat

    Hi NexxCat

    I used the back off a sticker which is 0.1mm on my calipers.
    Just found my gauges !

    Thanks

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      Carlo @NexxCat
      last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 20:34

      @NexxCat

      Hi,

      So I used the well 0.102 feeler gauge though it is .10 with my calipers and 3 times got 3 heights.
      I did video the whole process but that won't help me
      The numbers don't actually help because they are not accurate though one of them is:

      M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
      Z probe trigger height set to -0.159 mm

      I don't think it's the effector because it does what it is supposed to do and no matter what trigger height I put in G31 line its the same outcome and the effector does return the same probe heights all be it not one after the other 🙂
      maybe the drivers are not calculating correctly I don't know but it is what it is and that is not usable.

      Cheers for your help.

      C

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        NexxCat @Carlo
        last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 20:53

        @Carlo
        Ok, last thing I can think of, just to double check if the actual positioning is being repeatable. Run these commands one at a time, or save it as a macro:

        ; Disable any baby-stepping and the bed mesh
        M290 R0 S0
        G29 S2
        ; Home the effector
        G28
        ; Heat bed to 60C & nozzle to 130C
        M104 S130 T0
        M190 S60 T0
        M109 S130 T0
        ; Run delta calibration
        G32
        ; Move the effector to 0,0,Max height
        G1 X0 Y0 F4500
        G1 Z500 F4500
        ; Move the effector back to 10mm off the bed
        G1 Z10 F4500
        ; Slowly move down to 0.1mm
        G1 Z0.1 F600

        When the macro is finished, the nozzle is at 0.1 on the Z axis. Use the paper or a 0.1mm feeler gauge and see if the nozzle truly is at 0.1mm

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          Carlo @droftarts
          last edited by Carlo 26 Mar 2020, 20:54

          @droftarts

          Hi Ian,

          I used the original effector with the mag arms (printed the adapters) whats funny is I didn't even try to get anything level or square I literally slapped it together set the offset 1 level and it just worked.
          I have the effector still wired I can carefully attach it to the Duet2 and try it i cant fit the effector to the other board it's locked down
          but I've written this thing off now I don't expect this to ever work with duet but after spending all this time I do want to know whats wrong maybe it will help someone else some day...probably not

          I post a video of it once its fitted

          Thanks
          C

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            Carlo @NexxCat
            last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 20:56

            @NexxCat

            I'll do that now.

            Cheers
            C

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              Carlo @NexxCat
              last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:00

              @NexxCat

              Hi NexxCat,

              No its 0.1mm to high

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                NexxCat @Carlo
                last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:01

                @Carlo
                What is your current Z probe offset?

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                  Carlo @NexxCat
                  last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:01

                  @NexxCat

                  G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.159

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                    NexxCat @Carlo
                    last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:04

                    @Carlo
                    I can't remember offhand which way to adjust the offset to bring it closer, but try both of these, one will certainly be too high, but the other, does that give you a 0.1mm gap when running the macro I posted?

                    G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.059
                    G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.259
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                      Carlo @NexxCat
                      last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:08

                      @NexxCat

                      They have all been tried

                      it's 0.05 to bring it closer dc42 suggested 0.05 so I've tried all the -0. possible infact the video I posted is -0.05

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                        NexxCat @Carlo
                        last edited by NexxCat 26 Mar 2020, 21:09

                        @Carlo
                        I know you've tried them whilst printing, but try -0.059 and run the macro. Is the gap 0.1mm?

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                          Carlo @NexxCat
                          last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:11

                          @NexxCat

                          Doing it now

                          Bang on

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                            NexxCat @Carlo
                            last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:12

                            @Carlo
                            So with -0.059, the gap is exactly 0.1mm after running the macro I posted. Correct?

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                              Carlo @NexxCat
                              last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:13

                              @NexxCat

                              Yes spot on 0.1mm

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                                NexxCat @Carlo
                                last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:15

                                @Carlo
                                Ok, set that in your config. Then create the bed mesh with G29 S0. Once the mesh is complete, try to print the levelling model.

                                I know you've done this so many times before, but let's try now we know the nozzle positioning is correct ok? Use the level_test.gcode I have you before, because I know it doesn't have anything in it to mess with the settings.

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                                  Carlo @NexxCat
                                  last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:32

                                  @NexxCat

                                  Will do that now

                                  Thanks
                                  C

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                                    Carlo @NexxCat
                                    last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 21:53

                                    @NexxCat

                                    It failed but it's too close to the bed just I think but its the best its ever looked.

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                                      NexxCat @Carlo
                                      last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 22:04

                                      @Carlo
                                      So it was sticking but not extruding because it was too close? Try changing the offset to say -0.1?

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                                        Carlo @NexxCat
                                        last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 23:55

                                        @NexxCat

                                        Sorry been having net issues i'll adjust it 0.01 increments see if it works better.
                                        It was extruding and really sticking but as it did the next pass it was squishing too hard almost transparent and curling up at the outer edges indented in the middle as it cooled

                                        Thanks
                                        C

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                                          Carlo @NexxCat
                                          last edited by 27 Mar 2020, 19:05

                                          @NexxCat

                                          Hi NexxCat,

                                          Can I ask is Z hop enabled in the bed level test file you kindly sliced for me ?
                                          Or is that controlled via config.g ? ...so print files call M207: Retraction if Z hop is set on M207 in config.g Z hop is invoked on all Retractions ?

                                          Thanks
                                          C

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