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    • Turboundefined
      Turbo @felt342
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      @felt342 HOnestly if you can get the rollers perfect, don't mess with it. The only advantage I've found for linear rails is they're basically maintenance free once you align 'em properly. and they are more compact than the roller design.

      Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
      Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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      • Turboundefined
        Turbo @mrehorstdmd
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        @mrehorstdmd 415 Steps on the Z axis, although i need to tweak it since my cubes are about .2mm too short right now, but i also need to make sure its not my first layer or anything else. No lift on retract. I may adjust layer height, but for now .25Lh is my go to since i already have a printer for high detail stuff.

        Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
        Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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        • mrehorstdmdundefined
          mrehorstdmd @Turbo
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          @Turbo It's generally accepted practice to set layer thickness to a whole number multiple of the full step movement of the Z axis. For example, if the full step Z movement is 15 um, you would not use 200 um for the layer thickness, you'd use something like 210 um instead. That ensures that the motor is always in the same position relative to a full step at each layer position and should maximize print quality, at least with regard to layer thicknesses being the same. With the odd ratio of your gearbox, the whole step travel is going to be a number with lots of digits to the right of the decimal which makes getting a repeatable whole step multiple tricky. 5+2/11 ratio = 5.181818... I'm not sure how many digits you'd need to use before you reach the resolution limit of the system.

          Let's say your whole step travel worked out to be 51.8181818... um. If you went with a 4 full step multiple the layer thickness would be 207.272727... um. I don't know if you'd enter that as 207.3, 207.27, 207.273, etc. in the slicer to ensure that the motor was always in the same position relative to a full step at each layer.

          https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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          • felt342undefined
            felt342
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            Update - quick wrapping in aluminum foil. Hopefully I don't need to open it any soon 😄

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            • felt342undefined
              felt342
              last edited by felt342

              And finally I got a bed heater! I am working now on a way to constrain the cable from the bed and installing TCO for safety. Overall I am very happy with this bed its get to 140C in 15 minutes and its only 350W on 8mm mic6 plate.
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              • felt342undefined
                felt342
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                So I decided to CNC out some parts as I am being very happy with the printing big ABS parts already for real customers without warping and strong layer bonding. The passive heating is reaching 55 degrees and it was possible to print 22 hours object. But I always needed to adjust wheels a bit after the print is finished, as ABS printed parts are not good enough. For now, I have an X carriage made completely from aluminum and did a test with a fan blower reaching 70 degrees inside, cable holder, and bond tech extruder mount printed from Nylon + CF. It did survive without problems printing a 13-hour object. But the Y-axis mounts got a bit of flex after all as they are still from ABS, so I redesign them and ordered a CNC one, which should be done end of this week! Then testing and setting up an active heater.

                Updated link for some new photos:
                https://www.icloud.com/photos/#0xNaIFtCVxhc7LV4lLBvnyL5A

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                • whosrdaddyundefined
                  whosrdaddy @felt342
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                  @felt342 : nice printer you have there!
                  Question, where are you getting the CNC parts from?

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                  • felt342undefined
                    felt342 @whosrdaddy
                    last edited by

                    @whosrdaddy Thank you!

                    This is from 3D hubs, first time used their service.

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                    • felt342undefined
                      felt342
                      last edited by felt342

                      Hi all, things moving but very slow, this is progress so far by today. I got all-aluminum machined parts for the motion system, very happy with them, and moving very smoothly. I can tighten them very hard without worry what plastic will crack, or they will start wobble then the chamber is getting 45 degrees C. Besides this I also installed front panel and wheel to be able moving printer around as its getting quite heavy. Working on the door now and decided what it will be not hinged, but removable on the channel magnets, with transparent polycarbonate sheet.

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                      • felt342undefined
                        felt342
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                        Update - part cooling fan added. Mount and fan shroud printed from PA6.6. I used those fans - https://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/axial-fans/1356898/
                        They are rated to work at 70C and has a small form factor of 35x35x10mm with good pressure.
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                        • CR3Dundefined
                          CR3D
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                          I read your project very carefully! Really really cool! 🙂

                          I have published a fan duct for the BMG X2 ... maybe it will help you a little 🙂

                          https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4462527

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                          • felt342undefined
                            felt342
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                            Hi Cristian,

                            Thanks for this, it looks really great, might consider this! I was looking for something already made for BMG, but couldn't find any neat solutions, so I design my own, and there is yours now. Thanks again 🙂

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                            • mrehorstdmdundefined
                              mrehorstdmd @felt342
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                              @felt342 Does any air come out of those print cooling fan ducts? Axial fans don't usually work very well against pressure...

                              https://vimeo.com/252609601

                              https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
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                                @mrehorstdmd @CR3D looks to be using small blower fans at least.

                                I was trying to find a fan duct option for a friend who is building an ulticlone and they are all axial fans with super restricted ducts. How did this become a popular option?!

                                https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=ultimaker+fan+ducts&type=things&sort=relevant

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                                • felt342undefined
                                  felt342
                                  last edited by felt342

                                  @mrehorstdmd It has a lot of air coming out, I did get inspired by Raise 3D pro I have, and it has the same idea sort of, gives a lot of air - also this fan what I am using has a lot of pressure compared to Noctua or similar. I did a small video trying to show it with the lighter.
                                  https://share.icloud.com/photos/0UQ3lXNX68oKFoiqHt2Zj_HAQ

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @felt342
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                                    @felt342 Well it's all about static pressure, so if you've got that, you're all good.

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                                    • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                      mrehorstdmd @Phaedrux
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                                      @Phaedrux I think the exact same way that using 4 screws to level a print bed became popular. Someone made a mistake, posted it to the web, where others saw and copied it without thinking about it or testing it.

                                      That video of the test with the fan ultimately led me to delete my reddit account. I had people getting nasty about it and claiming that it was impossible, even though anyone could have tested it with a taped up piece of paper. Those are the times we live in...

                                      https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
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                                        @mrehorstdmd I remember that thread actually.

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                                        • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                          mrehorstdmd @Phaedrux
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                                          @Phaedrux yeah, it was pretty ridiculous.

                                          @felt342 if it works, it works! You must have some good fans there.

                                          https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                          • felt342undefined
                                            felt342 @mrehorstdmd
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                                            @mrehorstdmd

                                            Yeah, I am very happy what they do the job. I would be really disappointed if they will fail me, as they quite pricey 16 EUR each!

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