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    peter247 @tracar
    last edited by peter247 25 Aug 2020, 18:08

    @tracar

    SORRY !!!! , look like I was wrong I did know about corexy , both motors ?

    I'm 100% sure about the homing file needing changing , and know that the motor direction need changing , but I'm lost how to change it on a corexy.

    Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:10

      You're on the right track. On a cartesian printer it's easy because it's one motor and direction per axis. With corexy there is motor direction of rotation and also which motor is connected to which driver that also matters.

      The movement test in the link isolates each motor so you can see which direction it's going by itself and then from the results it tells you what to change.

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        peter247 @Phaedrux
        last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:15

        @Phaedrux

        So from your link is way to fix is ?

        If it moves towards +X and -Y, or towards -X and +Y, then either turn the power off and swap the X and Y motor connections, or use M584 in config.g to swap the X and Y motor drivers over.

        My head hurts !!! Brain Overload !!!!

        Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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          tracar @peter247
          last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:16

          @peter247 brain overload x2

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            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by Phaedrux 25 Aug 2020, 18:17

            M569 P0 S0 ; X motor runs forwards
            M569 P1 S0 ; Y motor runs forwards

            Set that first.

            Test for the correct X motor movement by sending these commands from the console:

            G91
            G1 S2 X10 F3000

            If the head moves diagonally in the +X and +Y directions, all is well. If it moves in the -X and -Y directions, change the S parameter to S1 in the M569 P0 command. If it moves towards +X and -Y, or towards -X and +Y, then either turn the power off and swap the X and Y motor connections, or use M584 in config.g to swap the X and Y motor drivers over.

            When you have the X motor moving correctly, test the Y motor by sending from the console:

            G91
            G1 S2 Y10 F3000

            If the head moves diagonally in the +X and -Y directions, all is well. If it moves in the -X and +Y directions, change the S parameter in the M569 P1 command to S1.

            Y+ meaning to the back

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              peter247 @tracar
              last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:20

              @tracar

              You do need to change the Y homing files , but I think you may have to play to get the direction correct.

              Don't forget to invert all the moves or the G1 Y5 F800 will push it into the end stop.

              Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:21

                The homing direction for Y should be positive direction to the endstop at the rear.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  tracar @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:22

                  @Phaedrux said in hbot homes correctly but prints mirrored ,:

                  M569 P0 S0 ; X motor runs forwards
                  M569 P1 S0 ; Y motor runs forwards

                  im not using the built in drivers , all are external
                  my config is currently this for x and y:
                  M569 P5 S1 T5 R1 ; physical drive x goes forwards
                  M569 P6 S1 T5 R1 ; physical drive y goes forwards

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @tracar
                    last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:23

                    @tracar said in hbot homes correctly but prints mirrored ,:

                    @Phaedrux said in hbot homes correctly but prints mirrored ,:

                    M569 P0 S0 ; X motor runs forwards
                    M569 P1 S0 ; Y motor runs forwards

                    im not using the built in drivers , all are external
                    my config is currently this for x and y:
                    M569 P5 S1 T5 R1 ; physical drive x goes forwards
                    M569 P6 S1 T5 R1 ; physical drive y goes forwards

                    Ok, well the idea is that you're setting the motors to rotate in a forward direction, however you do that. I believe that would make it clockwise.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      tracar
                      last edited by tracar 25 Aug 2020, 18:29

                      i have set to this
                      M569 P5 S0 T5 R1 ; physical drive x goes forwards
                      M569 P6 S0 T5 R1 ; physical drive y goes forwards

                      the
                      G91
                      G1 S2 X10 F3000

                      they both move towards the back left corner (where the endstops are )
                      so x moves in a negative and y in a positive

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @tracar
                        last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:45

                        @tracar said in hbot homes correctly but prints mirrored ,:

                        so x moves in a negative and y in a positive

                        If it moves towards +X and -Y, or towards -X and +Y, then either turn the power off and swap the X and Y motor connections, or use M584 in config.g to swap the X and Y motor drivers over.

                        So swap your X and Y motor plugs.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          tracar
                          last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 18:53

                          changed drives to :
                          M584 X6 Y5 Z7:8 E3 ; set drive mapping

                          now with

                          G91
                          G1 S2 X10 F3000

                          x and y move to the negative. so heading x to 0 and y to 0
                          which is the front left side of the printer.

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                            Phaedrux Moderator @tracar
                            last edited by Phaedrux 25 Aug 2020, 18:57

                            @tracar said in hbot homes correctly but prints mirrored ,:

                            x and y move to the negative.

                            If it moves in the -X and -Y directions, change the S parameter to S1 in the M569 P0 command. Or in your case, flip the direction on your external stepper for the P0 driver, labeled as X.

                            Actually that might be wrong because you've now remapped which driver X is assigned to. You're now using driver 6? Flip that one.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              tracar
                              last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 19:01

                              ; Drives
                              M569 P5 S0 T5 R1 ; physical drive y goes forwards
                              M569 P6 S1 T5 R1 ; physical drive x goes forwards

                              both move in a positive , to the top right side of the printer

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                                Phaedrux Moderator @tracar
                                last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 19:06

                                @tracar said in hbot homes correctly but prints mirrored ,:

                                both move in a positive , to the top right side of the printer

                                If the head moves diagonally in the +X and +Y directions, all is well.

                                Move on to the next direction move test.

                                When you have the X motor moving correctly, test the Y motor by sending from the console:

                                G91
                                G1 S2 Y10 F3000

                                If the head moves diagonally in the +X and -Y directions, all is well. If it moves in the -X and +Y directions, change the S parameter in the M569 P1 command to S1.

                                Y+ meaning to the back

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  tracar
                                  last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 19:08

                                  x pos
                                  y neg
                                  🙂

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 19:12

                                    Alright, so now when you jog the print head normally, does +x go to the right and Y+ to the back?

                                    Have you changed your homing files to move to Y positive?

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      tracar
                                      last edited by tracar 25 Aug 2020, 19:13

                                      jogging is correct

                                      y homing needs to be reversed

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                                        peter247 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by peter247 25 Aug 2020, 19:17

                                        @Phaedrux

                                        There is also some positive move need to go minus , eg the back off the end stop move , or they will push into the back stop instead of backing off.
                                        So like I said don't change invert all y moves.

                                        Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                                          tracar
                                          last edited by 25 Aug 2020, 19:19

                                          homeall works
                                          homex ,and homey work
                                          and......x y jog work in the right way

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