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    • MartinNYHCundefined
      MartinNYHC
      last edited by

      OK, but then it would be easier to move the nozzle to 0,0 and measure the distance. Isn't it? Will try that now.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        move the nozzle as close to the leadscrew as you can using g code.
        then look up the current position in the web ui.

        now measure the distance from the nozzle to the leadscrew and adjust coordinates with your measurements.

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        • MartinNYHCundefined
          MartinNYHC @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti That's what I did πŸ˜‰

          M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 E0.2                         ; set drive mapping
          M671 X-25:-32:398 Y360:10:202 S5			             ; Set up three Z-axis location
          

          Let's see what happens now.

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          • MartinNYHCundefined
            MartinNYHC
            last edited by

            My next problem is that when I do a G32, probe points are not equal to the points defined with G30 in bed.c although i do a G90 at the beginning.

            Here the config I have so far...

            config.g

            ; General preferences
            G90                                                      ; send absolute coordinates...
            M83                                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
            M550 P"duet3"                                            ; set printer name
            M669 K1                                                  ; select CoreXY mode
            
            ; Drives                                                 ; X:0.0, Y:0.1, E:0.2, Z_left_rear:0.3, Z_left_front:0.4, Z_right:0.5
            M569 P0.0 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
            M569 P0.1 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
            M569 P0.2 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
            M569 P0.3 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
            M569 P0.4 S1                                             ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
            M569 P0.5 S1                                             ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
            
            M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 E0.2                         ; set drive mapping
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                                  ; configure microstepping with interpolation
            M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z400.00 E405.18                      ; set steps per mm
            M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z24.00 E120.00                      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00               ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E5000.00                  ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E1600 I30                         ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M84 S30                                                  ; Set idle timeout
            
            ; Three axis setup - leadscrew positions
            M671 X-25:-32:398 Y360:10:202 S5			             ; Set up three Z-axis location
            
            ; Axis Limits
            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                         ; set axis minima
            M208 X330 Y330 Z450 S0                                   ; set axis maxima
            
            ; Endstops
            M574 X1 S1 P"io3.in"                                     ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io1.in
            M574 Y2 S1 P"io4.in"                                     ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin io2.in
            
            ; Z-Probe
            M950 S0 C"io7.out"                                       ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
            M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H10 F500 T6000                         ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
            ;G31 P500 X36.47 Y14 Z5                                   ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z10                                   ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X15:300 Y50:350 S57                                   ; define mesh grid
            
            ; Heaters
            M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T95000 B3950              ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
            M950 H0 C"out2" T0                                       ; create bed heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
            M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                         ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
            M140 H0                                                  ; map heated bed to heater 0
            M143 H0 S120                                             ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
            M308 S1 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
            M950 H1 C"out3" T1                                       ; create nozzle heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 1
            M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                         ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
            
            ; Fans
            M950 F0 C"out4" Q500                                     ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency
            M106 P0 S0 H-1                                           ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F1 C"out5" Q500                                     ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
            M106 P1 S1 H-1                                           ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M950 F2 C"out6" Q500                                     ; create fan 2 on pin out6 and set its frequency
            M106 P2 S0.3 H-1                                         ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F3 C"out7" Q500                                     ; create fan 3 on pin out7 and set its frequency
            M106 P3 S1 H-1                                           ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            
            ; Tools
            M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F0                               ; define tool 0
            G10 P0 X13 Y20 Z0                                        ; set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0                                             ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            
            ; Custom settings are not defined
            
            ; Miscellaneous
            M575 P1 S1 B115200                                       ; enable support for PanelDue
            M501                                                     ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
            T0                                                       ; select first tool
            
            

            bed.g

            M291 P"Probing mesh grid process started" R"Probing.." S1 T2
            M561                                    ; clear any bed transform
            G90                                             ; absolute positioning bb
            
            G1 Z20 F4000                            ; Making sure we're not going to hit the side of glass
            M400                                            ;Wait for move to finish
            M401                                            ;Deploy probe
            M557 X15:300 Y50:350 S57                                   ; define mesh grid
            G30 P0 X15 Y345 Z-99999       ; probe near leadscrew one
            G30 P1 X15 Y55 Z-99999      ; probe near leadscrew two
            G30 P2 X300 Y205 Z-99999       ; probe near leadscrew thre
            G30 P4 X160 Y205 Z-99999; probe the middle
            G30 P5 X15 Y65 Z-99999          ; Corner
            G30 P6 X15 Y350 Z-99999         ; Corner
            G30 P7 X305 Y350 Z-99999        ; Corner
            G30 P8 X305 Y65 z-99999 S3      ; Corner and calibrate 3 motors
            M374                                            ; Save calibration data. Default is sys/heightmap.csv
            G29                                                     ; Probe the bed and save height map to file
            M402                                            ;Retract probe
            M291 P"Probing mesh grid process finished !" R"Probing.." S1 T2
            G1 X182 Y206 F5000
            

            homeall.g

            G91                     ; relative positioning
            G1 Z5 F6000 H2          ; lift Z relative to current position
            G1 H1 X-355 Y355 F6000  ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
            G1 H1 X-355             ; home X axis
            G1 H1 Y355              ; home Y axis
            G1 X5 Y-5 F6000         ; go back a few mm
            G1 H1 X-355 F360        ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
            G1 H1 Y355              ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
            G90                     ; absolute positioning
            G1 X182 Y206.4 F6000    ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
            G30                     ; home Z by probing the bed
            
            
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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              Ok. You should only have 3 probe points defined in your bed file.

              Everything has to be in the same order too.
              So if you M584 Z axis are mapped front left, front right and back centre, the M671 and probe points in the bed file have to be in the same order.

              Here are my config.g extracts and my bed file

              ;############## Leadscrew Location ###################
              
              ; Leadscrew locations (really, kinematic coupling locations) extracted from CAD model assuming back right build plate corner is (0, 0)
              M671 X250:-250:0 Y270:270:-265 S20 								; Front Left: (484.5, 548.5) | Front Right: (-6, 548) | Back: (244.5, 17) M671 X234.5:-256:-5.5 Y274.5:274.5:-257 S20
              

              bed.g

              if !move.axes[0].homed || !move.axes[1].homed	; If the printer hasn't been homed, home it
              	M98 P"0:/sys/homex.g"	; home y and x
              ;
              M98 P"0:/sys/homez.g"			; home z
              ;
              M561							; clear any bed transform
              ;M558 P9 H5 F120 T24000			; increase dive height
              M98 P"bed_threeScrews.g"		; perform bed tramming
              echo "Bed Traming Cycle: 1 - Difference was " ^ move.calibration.initial.deviation ^ "mm"
              ;
              while move.calibration.initial.deviation >= 0.01		; perform additional tramming if previous deviation was over 0.01mm
                if iterations = 5
                  abort "Too many auto tramming attempts"
                M98 P"bed_threeScrews.g"		; perform bed tramming
                echo "Bed Traming Cycle: " ^ iterations + 2 ^ " - Difference was " ^ move.calibration.initial.deviation ^ "mm"
                continue
              ;
              G28 Z							; home z
              

              bed_threescrews.g

              G30 P0 X235 Y242.5 Z-99999         							; Probe near front left leadscrew
              G30 P1 X-245 Y242.5 Z-99999        							; Probe near front right leadscrew
              G30 P2 X-0 Y-250 Z-99999 S3     							; Probe near back leadscrew leadscrew and calibrate 3 motors
              

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • MartinNYHCundefined
                MartinNYHC
                last edited by

                I'm running into 5 iterations every time. Just recognized that one of my leadscrews often gets stuck when moving the bed. Need to find out the reason for that.

                Phew....my build seems to ba a never ending story.

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                • MartinNYHCundefined
                  MartinNYHC
                  last edited by MartinNYHC

                  OK, at least I fixed my Z leadscrew issue.

                  The first problem I have is, that at the first iteration of probing the bed near the left two leadscrews, the hotend is moving over the defined X/Y max limit and crashes into the end of the rails. Maybe I'm blind but cannot find the misconfiguration.

                  Here's my complete config:

                  config.g

                  ; General preferences
                  G90                                                      ; send absolute coordinates...
                  M83                                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
                  M550 P"duet3"                                            ; set printer name
                  M669 K1                                                  ; select CoreXY mode
                  
                  ; Drives                                                 ; X:0.0, Y:0.1, E:0.2, Z_left_rear:0.3, Z_left_front:0.4, Z_right:0.5
                  M569 P0.0 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.1 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.2 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.3 S0                                             ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.4 S1                                             ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.5 S1                                             ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                  
                  M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 E0.2                         ; set drive mapping
                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                                  ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                  M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z400.00 E405.18                      ; set steps per mm
                  M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z24.00 E120.00                      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00               ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E5000.00                  ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E1600 I30                         ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30                                                  ; Set idle timeout
                  
                  ; Three axis setup - leadscrew positions
                  M671 X11:11:426 Y355:51:205 S20			                 ; Set up three Z-axis location
                  
                  ; Axis Limits
                  M208 X28 Y24 Z0 S1                                       ; set axis minima
                  M208 X355 Y355 Z400 S0                                   ; set axis maxima
                  
                  ; Endstops
                  M574 X1 S1 P"io3.in"                                     ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io3.in
                  M574 Y1 S1 P"io4.in"                                     ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin io4.in
                  
                  ; Z-Probe
                  M950 S0 C"io7.out"                                       ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                  M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H20 F1000 T6000                       ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                  G31 P500 X36.47 Y-4 Z1.72                                ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                  M557 X50:300 Y80:355 S50                                 ; define mesh grid
                  
                  ; Heaters
                  M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T95000 B3950              ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                  M950 H0 C"out2" T0                                       ; create bed heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                         ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                  M140 H0                                                  ; map heated bed to heater 0
                  M143 H0 S120                                             ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                  M308 S1 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
                  M950 H1 C"out3" T1                                       ; create nozzle heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 1
                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                         ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                  
                  ; Fans
                  M950 F0 C"out4" Q500                                     ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency
                  M106 P0 S0 H-1                                           ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M950 F1 C"out5" Q500                                     ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                  M106 P1 S1 H-1                                           ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M950 F2 C"out6" Q500                                     ; create fan 2 on pin out6 and set its frequency
                  M106 P2 S0.3 H-1                                         ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M950 F3 C"out7" Q500                                     ; create fan 3 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                  M106 P3 S1 H-1                                           ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  
                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 S"Hotend" D0 H1 F0                               ; define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X13 Y20 Z0                                        ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0                                             ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                  
                  ; Custom settings are not defined
                  
                  ; Miscellaneous
                  M575 P1 S1 B115200                                       ; enable support for PanelDue
                  M501                                                     ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                  T0                                                       ; select first tool
                  
                  

                  bed.g

                  if !move.axes[0].homed || !move.axes[1].homed	; If the printer hasn't been homed, home it
                  	M98 P"0:/sys/homeall.g"	; home y and x
                  
                  M98 P"0:/sys/homez.g"			; home z
                  
                  M561							; clear any bed transform
                  
                  ;M558 P9 H5 F120 T24000			; increase dive height
                  
                  M98 P"bed_threeScrews.g"		; perform bed tramming
                  
                  echo "Bed Traming Cycle: 1 - Difference was " ^ move.calibration.initial.deviation ^ "mm"
                  
                  while move.calibration.initial.deviation >= 0.01		; perform additional tramming if previous deviation was over 0.01mm
                  
                    if iterations = 5
                  
                      abort "Too many auto tramming attempts"
                  
                    M98 P"bed_threeScrews.g"		; perform bed tramming
                  
                    echo "Bed Traming Cycle: " ^ iterations + 2 ^ " - Difference was " ^ move.calibration.initial.deviation ^ "mm"
                  
                    continue
                  
                  G28 Z							; home z
                  
                  

                  bed_threeScrews.g

                  G30 P0 X41 Y355 Z-99999       		; probe near leadscrew one
                  G30 P1 X41 Y55 Z-99999      		; probe near leadscrew two
                  G30 P2 X338 Y205 Z-99999 S3      	; probe near leadscrew three
                  
                  
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                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                    jay_s_uk
                    last edited by

                    G30 takes into account the probe offset. So you need to take that into account.
                    If you're going to 355 for example, that will be offset a further 4mm to take your y-4 into account

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    • MartinNYHCundefined
                      MartinNYHC
                      last edited by MartinNYHC

                      Got it, thanks!

                      So now all three points will be probed:

                      9/18/2020, 11:00:53 AM 	Bed Traming Cycle: 1 - Difference was 0.004mm
                      9/18/2020, 11:00:53 AM 	Leadscrew adjustments made: 0.163 0.171 0.158, points used 3, (mean, deviation) before (0.164, 0.004) after (0.000, 0.000)
                      

                      but when I do a G29 afterwards, the heightmap looks like

                      Screenshot 2020-09-18 at 11.06.01.png

                      I'm wondering if I assembled the three bed holder at the right positions. Currently it looks like this:

                      IMG_0033.jpg

                      Left Front:
                      Screenshot 2020-09-18 at 11.11.52.png

                      Left rear:
                      Screenshot 2020-09-18 at 11.09.41.png

                      BTW: this is not the final bed setup. Just reused some old parts to check if that all works out πŸ˜‰

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by dc42

                        You have an apparent twist in your height map. Typical causes of this:

                        1. If it's a CoreXY printer, check that the gentry is flat and not twisted. My E3D tool changer suffers from this if I don't put padding under one of the feet.
                        2. If the print carriage rotates about the X axis as it moves along it, this rotation will change the distance between the nozzle and the bed. If the X axis uses two parallel linear rods, check that there is no relative twist between them.
                        3. Or of course the bed could be twisted.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • MartinNYHCundefined
                          MartinNYHC
                          last edited by

                          Gantry and bed are not twisted.

                          I just levelled the bed with a digital leveler and ran a G32. Although the bed should be in level it was set down on the right side, where the roll screw is located.

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                          • MartinNYHCundefined
                            MartinNYHC
                            last edited by

                            Found out, that I forgot to change the steps after changing the Z axes to SFU1204. At least it looks a little bit better now.

                            9/18/2020, 1:33:08 PM 	Bed Traming Cycle: 1 - Difference was 0.010mm
                            9/18/2020, 1:33:08 PM 	Leadscrew adjustments made: 0.068 0.043 0.066, points used 3, (mean, deviation) before (0.059, 0.010) after (-0.000, 0.000)
                            

                            Screenshot 2020-09-18 at 13.41.22.png

                            Any other ideas?

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                            • engikeneerundefined
                              engikeneer @MartinNYHC
                              last edited by

                              @MartinNYHC check how level your two guide rails are for the Y axis. Check both along their lengths individually and for any height difference between them.

                              From you height map, it looks like the three points you probed for the auto tramming are all at the same height, give or take. This means that it has correctly levelled the bed based on these three points. I'm assuming here that the 0,0 point is at the front left in the photo of your bed (where I'd expect it).

                              Looking at the heightmap, it seems that your y-rail on the right hand side (at your x-max side) is not flat compared to the left hand one, leading to the twist you are seeing in your height map.

                              E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                              Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                              i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                              • MartinNYHCundefined
                                MartinNYHC @engikeneer
                                last edited by

                                @engikeneer Just measured and the front end of the right extrusion is 1mm higher. How the hell shall one assemble the frame that it is 100% square? πŸ€•

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                                • whopping pochardundefined
                                  whopping pochard @MartinNYHC
                                  last edited by

                                  @MartinNYHC build it on a surface plate. πŸ˜… I’m actually lobbying for our maker space to get one so I can use it for my next build...

                                  For my BLV I printed off two copies of the jigs and used those to hold both sides simultaneously. Still don’t have it up and running again though!

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                                  • engikeneerundefined
                                    engikeneer @MartinNYHC
                                    last edited by

                                    @MartinNYHC if you find an answer to that, please let me know! I don't have a digital level gauge so just kept adjusting mine, redoing the mesh, then repeating until I gave up πŸ˜†

                                    One other thought. You can probe more than three points if you like and anywhere on the bed. It will then do least squares to get the average bed plane and auto tram to that (thats why it gives a std dev before adjustments). Might be worth considering when you've done what you can with mechanicals to minimise the bed mesh?

                                    E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                                    Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                                    i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                                    • MartinNYHCundefined
                                      MartinNYHC @engikeneer
                                      last edited by

                                      @engikeneer Yes, I already added some additional probing points. Will try it out tomorrow.

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                                      • MartinNYHCundefined
                                        MartinNYHC
                                        last edited by

                                        Since I don't want to reassemble the frame once again before I'm sure what exactly the problem is, I just placed a washer between the bed frame and the bed holder on the right side. Looks better...

                                        Screenshot 2020-09-19 at 12.15.58.png

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