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    mrenz999 @fcwilt
    last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 01:58

    @fcwilt gotcha. The are underneath
    BC92041E-461A-4613-B942-F6B99FE7EEC6.jpeg

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      3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
      last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:04

      @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

      @3DPrintingWorld In your bed.g do you have it do multiple probes per point ? If so how do you accomplish that ?

      I created a macro that heats the bed, calls out the mesh, homes, does the mesh, saves the mesh, then turns the bed off. I started at 10:10, then S= was my max travel minus 10. Plus you have to add/subtract your probe to nozzle offset.

      M140 S60
      M557 X10:365 Y10:290 S300:270
      G28
      G29 S0
      G29 S3
      M140 S0

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        fcwilt @mrenz999
        last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:05

        @mrenz999

        Great.

        Did you print out those "tools" designed to help align the frame pieces?

        I didn't have such tools and after seeing my 4 point height map I realized that my left and right Y axis guides were not in the same plane meaning the frame pieces were not in the same plane.

        I closely examined the left and right frame pieces where they joined the four vertical pieces at the top and found that they were at slightly different heights, with the left piece being low in the rear and right piece being high in the front.

        We are talking fractions of a mm but it was enough to generate a "twisted" height map - though not as bad as yours.

        Perhaps you are having the same problem.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
          last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:06

          @mrenz999

          Looks like one of your bearings is not attached?

          ![0_1615255538626_bearing.png](Uploading 100%)

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            mrenz999 @fcwilt
            last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:07

            @fcwilt Perhaps. I did print the tool but things move so I will recheck them.
            Is there a way to add the a and s parameter to your bed.g when doing the leveling so it does multiple probes ?

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              fcwilt @3DPrintingWorld
              last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:07

              @3DPrintingWorld said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

              M140 S60
              M557 X10:365 Y10:290 S300:270
              G28
              G29 S0
              G29 S3
              M140 S0

              Why the G29 S3? The G29 S0 creates the height map and loads it.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                mrenz999 @3DPrintingWorld
                last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:07

                @3DPrintingWorld I pulled screws out of all of them and started a retighten. Trying to see if something came loose.

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                  fcwilt @mrenz999
                  last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:09

                  @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                  @fcwilt Perhaps. I did print the tool but things move so I will recheck them.
                  Is there a way to add the a and s parameter to your bed.g when doing the leveling so it does multiple probes ?

                  Yes but is there some reason you cannot modify the existing M558?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
                    last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:10

                    @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                    @3DPrintingWorld I pulled screws out of all of them and started a retighten. Trying to see if something came loose.

                    Ok, that makes sense.

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                      mrenz999
                      last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:10

                      I can but does that affect the bed leveling as well ?

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                        fcwilt @mrenz999
                        last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:11

                        @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                        I can but does that affect the bed leveling as well ?

                        If affects the way the probe works where ever it is used.

                        Do you wish to have it behave in different ways in different places?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          mrenz999 @fcwilt
                          last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:12

                          @fcwilt Not necessarily. I just want it to do multiple probes when it checks bed leveling when I home the printer.

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                            3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
                            last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:13

                            @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                            Why the G29 S3? The G29 S0 creates the height map and loads it.

                            Sorry I should have deleted that, I was making edits to mine before I posted it.

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                              fcwilt @mrenz999
                              last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:14

                              @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                              @fcwilt Not necessarily. I just want it to do multiple probes when it checks bed leveling when I home the printer.

                              Well the intent of the A and S parameters is to increase the accuracy and repeatability of the probe.

                              So I have always set them and let them take affect whenever the probe is used.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                mrenz999 @fcwilt
                                last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 02:36

                                @fcwilt makes perfect sense. I will set that. Thank You

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                                  martin7404
                                  last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 08:20

                                  here is my 4 point map
                                  map.png

                                  Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                                  Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                                  Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                                  custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                                    fcwilt
                                    last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 13:04

                                    Well I've completely lost track of who was having problems with what.

                                    @3DPrintingWorld was the OP.

                                    Then @martin7404 joined the discussion.

                                    Then @mrenz999 joined the discussion.

                                    Have we solved anything for anyone yet? 😉

                                    @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
                                      last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 15:05

                                      @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                      @martin7404 your 4 point height map suggests your bed is quite level.

                                      Martin is just bragging! 🤣

                                      I think my issue might be the magnetic sheet cracking causing a ridge making it not flat in the back left corner. I'm going to take off the magnet tonight and give it a go with just glass on on aluminum. I just cant be down too long because I'm behind on parts.... I need to build more printers.😁

                                      My bed has ever been as flat as I would have liked it. I may take a skim cut off the top. Has anyone had good luck attaching a silicon heater back on after its been removed?

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                                        martin7404
                                        last edited by martin7404 3 Sept 2021, 22:32 9 Mar 2021, 19:23

                                        I am not bragging, just chime in to share that with faulty board/drivers I got wrong compensation in triple Z setup, the rest is too much I agree.
                                        My bed is within a few thousands without the magnetic mat and the mat is off with 0.1 mm

                                        Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                                        Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                                        Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                                        custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                                          3DPrintingWorld @martin7404
                                          last edited by 9 Mar 2021, 22:39

                                          @martin7404 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                          I am not bragging

                                          I know, I'm just giving you a hard time. 😁

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