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    • mrenz999undefined
      mrenz999 @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt 74F8FDA7-A36F-4BF5-8412-C47969D153D8.jpeg

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      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
        3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
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        Thanks @fcwilt, think you finally helped me realize my issue. Only four points makes the map much easier to understand.

        When I first ran the mesh the left back corner was really low. I have a glass plate on top of a sheet magnet. I am only using glass because I wanted to verify the bed was flat.
        glass-w clips.png

        I'm clipping down the bed in the back center left and front center right. I moved both clips to center right and reran the mesh and the low corner goes away!
        glass.png

        Upon further inspection of the magnetic sheet shows small cracks where it starts to turn blue in the first map. I think these crack are causing the issue. I'll remove the magnet an put the glass directly on the bed tomorrow and give it a try.

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        • mrenz999undefined
          mrenz999 @3DPrintingWorld
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          @3DPrintingWorld In your bed.g do you have it do multiple probes per point ? If so how do you accomplish that ?

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @mrenz999
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            @mrenz999 Thanks.

            The is an extreme version of what my height map looked like.

            Is this what the frame of your printer looks like?

            BLV Printer Frame.jpg

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • mrenz999undefined
              mrenz999
              last edited by mrenz999

              Yes thats the one 🙂 Except I have 3 z motors. 2 on the right side and 1 on the left

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @mrenz999
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                @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                @3DPrintingWorld In your bed.g do you have it do multiple probes per point ? If so how do you accomplish that ?

                Read up about the A and S parameters of M558.

                If A = 10 and S=0.01 the process will probe each point up to 10 times trying to get two consecutive readings with 0.01.

                If it fails to do that it will average all 10 readings.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • mrenz999undefined
                  mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt Perfect. Thank you. Does it matter where in the M558 I put that ?

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @mrenz999
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                    @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                    Yes thats the one 🙂 Except I have 3 z motors. 2 on the right side and 1 on the left

                    And the linear guides are on the underside of the top most frame pieces?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @mrenz999
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                      @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                      @fcwilt Perfect. Thank you. Does it matter where in the M558 I put that ?

                      No just add them to your current M558 command.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • mrenz999undefined
                        mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt 0ECE84DA-7325-4F23-B80F-F831165E2698.jpeg

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @mrenz999
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                          @mrenz999

                          Sorry but I cannot tell where they are from that picture - I may be looking right at them and just not seeing them.

                          So where are the left and right linear guides mounted?

                          Thanks.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • mrenz999undefined
                            mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt So the left one is in the middle of the bed on the X axis. The 2 on the right are at the corners of the bed frame. The bed frame sits on the attachment to the linear guide mounts

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @mrenz999
                              last edited by

                              @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                              @fcwilt So the left one is in the middle of the bed on the X axis. The 2 on the right are at the corners of the bed frame. The bed frame sits on the attachment to the linear guide mounts

                              Sorry I was not clear - I meant the Y axis guides - the ones running front to back on each side.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • mrenz999undefined
                                mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                                @fcwilt gotcha. The are underneath
                                BC92041E-461A-4613-B942-F6B99FE7EEC6.jpeg

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                                • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                  3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
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                                  @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                  @3DPrintingWorld In your bed.g do you have it do multiple probes per point ? If so how do you accomplish that ?

                                  I created a macro that heats the bed, calls out the mesh, homes, does the mesh, saves the mesh, then turns the bed off. I started at 10:10, then S= was my max travel minus 10. Plus you have to add/subtract your probe to nozzle offset.

                                  M140 S60
                                  M557 X10:365 Y10:290 S300:270
                                  G28
                                  G29 S0
                                  G29 S3
                                  M140 S0

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @mrenz999
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                                    @mrenz999

                                    Great.

                                    Did you print out those "tools" designed to help align the frame pieces?

                                    I didn't have such tools and after seeing my 4 point height map I realized that my left and right Y axis guides were not in the same plane meaning the frame pieces were not in the same plane.

                                    I closely examined the left and right frame pieces where they joined the four vertical pieces at the top and found that they were at slightly different heights, with the left piece being low in the rear and right piece being high in the front.

                                    We are talking fractions of a mm but it was enough to generate a "twisted" height map - though not as bad as yours.

                                    Perhaps you are having the same problem.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                      3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
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                                      @mrenz999

                                      Looks like one of your bearings is not attached?

                                      ![0_1615255538626_bearing.png](Uploading 100%)

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                                      • mrenz999undefined
                                        mrenz999 @fcwilt
                                        last edited by

                                        @fcwilt Perhaps. I did print the tool but things move so I will recheck them.
                                        Is there a way to add the a and s parameter to your bed.g when doing the leveling so it does multiple probes ?

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @3DPrintingWorld
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                                          @3DPrintingWorld said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                          M140 S60
                                          M557 X10:365 Y10:290 S300:270
                                          G28
                                          G29 S0
                                          G29 S3
                                          M140 S0

                                          Why the G29 S3? The G29 S0 creates the height map and loads it.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • mrenz999undefined
                                            mrenz999 @3DPrintingWorld
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                                            @3DPrintingWorld I pulled screws out of all of them and started a retighten. Trying to see if something came loose.

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