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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @mrenz999
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      @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

      Yes thats the one 🙂 Except I have 3 z motors. 2 on the right side and 1 on the left

      And the linear guides are on the underside of the top most frame pieces?

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @mrenz999
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        @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

        @fcwilt Perfect. Thank you. Does it matter where in the M558 I put that ?

        No just add them to your current M558 command.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • mrenz999undefined
          mrenz999 @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt 0ECE84DA-7325-4F23-B80F-F831165E2698.jpeg

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @mrenz999
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            @mrenz999

            Sorry but I cannot tell where they are from that picture - I may be looking right at them and just not seeing them.

            So where are the left and right linear guides mounted?

            Thanks.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • mrenz999undefined
              mrenz999 @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt So the left one is in the middle of the bed on the X axis. The 2 on the right are at the corners of the bed frame. The bed frame sits on the attachment to the linear guide mounts

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @mrenz999
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                @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                @fcwilt So the left one is in the middle of the bed on the X axis. The 2 on the right are at the corners of the bed frame. The bed frame sits on the attachment to the linear guide mounts

                Sorry I was not clear - I meant the Y axis guides - the ones running front to back on each side.

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • mrenz999undefined
                  mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt gotcha. The are underneath
                  BC92041E-461A-4613-B942-F6B99FE7EEC6.jpeg

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                  • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                    3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
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                    @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                    @3DPrintingWorld In your bed.g do you have it do multiple probes per point ? If so how do you accomplish that ?

                    I created a macro that heats the bed, calls out the mesh, homes, does the mesh, saves the mesh, then turns the bed off. I started at 10:10, then S= was my max travel minus 10. Plus you have to add/subtract your probe to nozzle offset.

                    M140 S60
                    M557 X10:365 Y10:290 S300:270
                    G28
                    G29 S0
                    G29 S3
                    M140 S0

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @mrenz999
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                      @mrenz999

                      Great.

                      Did you print out those "tools" designed to help align the frame pieces?

                      I didn't have such tools and after seeing my 4 point height map I realized that my left and right Y axis guides were not in the same plane meaning the frame pieces were not in the same plane.

                      I closely examined the left and right frame pieces where they joined the four vertical pieces at the top and found that they were at slightly different heights, with the left piece being low in the rear and right piece being high in the front.

                      We are talking fractions of a mm but it was enough to generate a "twisted" height map - though not as bad as yours.

                      Perhaps you are having the same problem.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                        3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
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                        @mrenz999

                        Looks like one of your bearings is not attached?

                        ![0_1615255538626_bearing.png](Uploading 100%)

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                        • mrenz999undefined
                          mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt Perhaps. I did print the tool but things move so I will recheck them.
                          Is there a way to add the a and s parameter to your bed.g when doing the leveling so it does multiple probes ?

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @3DPrintingWorld
                            last edited by

                            @3DPrintingWorld said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                            M140 S60
                            M557 X10:365 Y10:290 S300:270
                            G28
                            G29 S0
                            G29 S3
                            M140 S0

                            Why the G29 S3? The G29 S0 creates the height map and loads it.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • mrenz999undefined
                              mrenz999 @3DPrintingWorld
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                              @3DPrintingWorld I pulled screws out of all of them and started a retighten. Trying to see if something came loose.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @mrenz999
                                last edited by

                                @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                @fcwilt Perhaps. I did print the tool but things move so I will recheck them.
                                Is there a way to add the a and s parameter to your bed.g when doing the leveling so it does multiple probes ?

                                Yes but is there some reason you cannot modify the existing M558?

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                  3DPrintingWorld @mrenz999
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                                  @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                  @3DPrintingWorld I pulled screws out of all of them and started a retighten. Trying to see if something came loose.

                                  Ok, that makes sense.

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                                  • mrenz999undefined
                                    mrenz999
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                                    I can but does that affect the bed leveling as well ?

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @mrenz999
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                                      @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                      I can but does that affect the bed leveling as well ?

                                      If affects the way the probe works where ever it is used.

                                      Do you wish to have it behave in different ways in different places?

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • mrenz999undefined
                                        mrenz999 @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt Not necessarily. I just want it to do multiple probes when it checks bed leveling when I home the printer.

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                                        • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                                          3DPrintingWorld @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                          Why the G29 S3? The G29 S0 creates the height map and loads it.

                                          Sorry I should have deleted that, I was making edits to mine before I posted it.

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @mrenz999
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                                            @mrenz999 said in Independently leveled Z axis Issue:

                                            @fcwilt Not necessarily. I just want it to do multiple probes when it checks bed leveling when I home the printer.

                                            Well the intent of the A and S parameters is to increase the accuracy and repeatability of the probe.

                                            So I have always set them and let them take affect whenever the probe is used.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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