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    CNCModeller @dc42
    last edited by 17 May 2021, 20:40

    @dc42 That's great news.

    I was just wondering what the score was with these myself as I noticed a reference to them in the documentation when I was setting up my Duet 3 mini this afternoon. At least I know it's still on the horizon.

    It'd be great to keep my build totally within the Duet3D ecosystem, especially as I'm starting to get interested 3rd parties so may eventually be making more printers than I expected. Definitely want closed loop on one axis l, if not 2.

    Please add me to the backorder when you are ready. Is there any forecast on unit cost?

    I also remember a mention of a driverless control card, is there any follow up on that too?

    Many thanks for all your efforts! 👏🌟
    Barry M

    Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
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    Wanhao D4S: Duet2
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    K40 Laser, Duet2
    https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
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      supertb1 @dc42
      last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 15:12

      @dc42 Hello, following up on progress of the closed loop nema 17/23 controller for Duet 3... any good news?... can I start sending Duet3D my money yet?

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        dc42 administrators @supertb1
        last edited by 18 Jun 2021, 16:30

        @supertb1 said in closed loop nema 17/23 driver/controller for Duet 3 6hc board:

        @dc42 Hello, following up on progress of the closed loop nema 17/23 controller for Duet 3... any good news?... can I start sending Duet3D my money yet?

        We are awaiting manufacture of the new version with upgraded processor, and we have an intern scheduled to work on completing the firmware under my supervision starting later this month.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          supertb1 @dc42
          last edited by 13 Jul 2021, 14:33

          @dc42 Hello DC42, the suspense is breathtaking on the completion of the closed loop duet stepper controller... any good news?

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            dc42 administrators @supertb1
            last edited by 13 Jul 2021, 16:00

            @supertb1 said in closed loop nema 17/23 driver/controller for Duet 3 6hc board:

            @dc42 Hello DC42, the suspense is breathtaking on the completion of the closed loop duet stepper controller... any good news?

            Yes. The new hardware prototypes are being manufactured and should be available soon. Meanwhile the closed loop firmware is being developed on the old prototypes.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              supertb1 @dc42
              last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 13:32

              @dc42 I would be willing to pay $200 US for the controller, has there been a price point discussed on this yet?... I would love to be a (beta tester/youtube unboxer) tester of this controller. Also what are you using for steppers, or have you come up with a duet closed loop nema 17/23 motor for this new board?

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by dc42 14 Jul 2021, 14:03

                @supertb1 we are testing with Nema 17 and Nema 34 steppers with built-in encoders from StepperOnline. Price will be higher than a tool board but I expect it to be lower than a 3HC. We will also offer an optional magnetic encoder + magnet to go on the back of a standard stepper motor.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  chernogorsky @dc42
                  last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 15:47

                  @dc42 set it to preorder somethere %-) willing to put some buks there

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                    MaxGyver @dc42
                    last edited by MaxGyver 14 Jul 2021, 16:34

                    @dc42

                    @dc42 said in closed loop nema 17/23 driver/controller for Duet 3 6hc board:

                    We will also offer an optional magnetic encoder + magnet to go on the back of a standard stepper motor.

                    This is amazing! I was already looking into ways to add encoders to my Bondtech LGX extruders. Thank you for your hard work!

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                      supertb1 @chernogorsky
                      last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 17:27

                      @chernogorsky I agree, I would be willing to put some money on this for pre-order.

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                        dc42 administrators @supertb1
                        last edited by 16 Jul 2021, 10:15

                        https://twitter.com/Escher3D/status/1415953189145399297?s=20

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          CNCModeller @dc42
                          last edited by 16 Jul 2021, 13:11

                          @dc42 all good progress. Looking forward to getting my hands on one!

                          Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
                          https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
                          Wanhao D4S: Duet2
                          https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
                          K40 Laser, Duet2
                          https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
                          Wanhao D5S
                          https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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                            gregsaun @dc42
                            last edited by 16 Jul 2021, 20:18

                            @dc42 Awesome news, thank you and congrats to Louis as well!

                            github.com/gregsaun - Papa Bear

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                              tristanryerparke @dc42
                              last edited by 27 Jul 2021, 01:37

                              @dc42 Hey David,
                              What kind of current rating are you thinking for these boards?
                              Tristan

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                                dc42 administrators @tristanryerparke
                                last edited by dc42 27 Jul 2021, 06:50

                                @tristanryerparke said in closed loop nema 17/23 driver/controller for Duet 3 6hc board:

                                @dc42 Hey David,
                                What kind of current rating are you thinking for these boards?
                                Tristan

                                Up to 6.3A peak (4.5A RMS) @ up to 50V.

                                We have the new hardware prototypes running now.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  3DPMicro @dc42
                                  last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 00:31

                                  @dc42
                                  I am adding cnc capabilities to a manual Lathe at work and was intending to use 2, 4'ish amp Closed loop Nema 23's from Stepperonline and a Duet 2 with expansion board for control. After reading this I would much rather use a MB6HC and the new expansion board. If I could get my hands on one of your new prototypes that would be great. Please let me know if you are interested in dedicating a board for cnc testing. I can be ready in as little as 3 weeks

                                  Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                                    dc42 administrators @3DPMicro
                                    last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 06:44

                                    @3dpmicro depending on what else you want to drive, it is may be that a Duet 3 Mini + the closed loop boards would be sufficient for your system.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      3DPMicro @dc42
                                      last edited by 29 Jul 2021, 08:30

                                      @dc42
                                      Not much else. Spindle control at some point. I can see how the MB6HC would be a bit overkill for the application.

                                      Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                                        supertb1 @dc42
                                        last edited by 14 Aug 2021, 18:30

                                        @dc42 Hello dc42, it is that time of the month and I am as excited as I have been to take part in field testing the new closed loop controller and steppers. How close is Duet3D to coming to market? As always best regards.

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                                          dc42 administrators @supertb1
                                          last edited by 16 Aug 2021, 20:33

                                          @supertb1 we'll be starting the beta test phase shortly.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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