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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt I'm currently re-running the autotuning with the removed T, B, and C values from the config

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      • Dougal1957undefined
        Dougal1957 @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @fcwilt I'm currently re-running the autotuning with the removed T, B, and C values from the config

        Good luck Kevin

        Doug

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        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
          DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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          @kevinmar
          Put in the R value

          (UTC+1)

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @Dougal1957
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            @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            yes but the T100000 is for a ntc100k thermistor should not be required for a pt1000 nor a beta value as they are linear and don't have a c param either so not sure if having those params are confusing the issue

            I was trying to point out that R, L and N are the only additional parameters for PT1000 devices.

            The B,C and T are clearly incorrect but are the affecting the heater or are they ignored since they don't apply?

            I don't know.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • Dougal1957undefined
              Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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              @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @kevinmar
              Put in the R value

              doesn't need it as it will default correctly

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                yes but the T100000 is for a ntc100k thermistor should not be required for a pt1000 nor a beta value as they are linear and don't have a c param either so not sure if having those params are confusing the issue

                I was trying to point out that R, L and N are the only additional parameters for PT1000 devices.

                The B,C and T are clearly incorrect but are the affecting the heater or are they ignored since they don't apply?

                I don't know.

                Frederick

                I agree neither do I know but it has to be worth a try

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt s

                  Rnnn Series resistor value. Leave blank to use the default for your board.
                  Lnnn ADC low offset correction, default 0 (ignored if the hardware supports automatic ADC gain and offset calibration)
                  Hnnn ADC high offset correction, default 0 (ignored if the hardware supports automatic ADC gain and offset calibration)

                  So Lnnn can offset the higher ambient reading?

                  I have no idea. Never used PT1000 devices.

                  And how does one know if the hardware supports automatic ADC gain and offset calibration?

                  Again I have no idea but I suspect @dc42 would.

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • Dougal1957undefined
                    Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Dougal1957
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                      @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                      @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

                      Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • Dougal1957undefined
                        Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

                        Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

                        Frederick

                        pt1000 no but the pt100 does need the daughter board

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                            DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt
                            Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

                            (UTC+1)

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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                              @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              @fcwilt
                              Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

                              nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @Dougal1957
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                                @dougal1957
                                New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                                Another fault:
                                a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                                (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  @dougal1957
                                  New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                                  Another fault:
                                  a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                                  (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

                                  Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                    @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

                                      So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt They're identical

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @fcwilt They're identical

                                          So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                                          I assume you re-booted.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt Affirmative

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