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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      yes but the T100000 is for a ntc100k thermistor should not be required for a pt1000 nor a beta value as they are linear and don't have a c param either so not sure if having those params are confusing the issue

      I was trying to point out that R, L and N are the only additional parameters for PT1000 devices.

      The B,C and T are clearly incorrect but are the affecting the heater or are they ignored since they don't apply?

      I don't know.

      Frederick

      I agree neither do I know but it has to be worth a try

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @fcwilt s

        Rnnn Series resistor value. Leave blank to use the default for your board.
        Lnnn ADC low offset correction, default 0 (ignored if the hardware supports automatic ADC gain and offset calibration)
        Hnnn ADC high offset correction, default 0 (ignored if the hardware supports automatic ADC gain and offset calibration)

        So Lnnn can offset the higher ambient reading?

        I have no idea. Never used PT1000 devices.

        And how does one know if the hardware supports automatic ADC gain and offset calibration?

        Again I have no idea but I suspect @dc42 would.

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @Dougal1957
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            @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

            Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • Dougal1957undefined
              Dougal1957 @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

              Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

              Frederick

              pt1000 no but the pt100 does need the daughter board

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt
                  Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

                  (UTC+1)

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                  • Dougal1957undefined
                    Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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                    @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                    @fcwilt
                    Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

                    nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @Dougal1957
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                      @dougal1957
                      New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                      Another fault:
                      a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                      (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @dougal1957
                        New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                        Another fault:
                        a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                        (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

                        Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

                            So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt They're identical

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                @fcwilt They're identical

                                So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                                I assume you re-booted.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • KevinMarundefined
                                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt Affirmative

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    @fcwilt Affirmative

                                    Strange problem you are having.

                                    You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                                    Were all three heating at the time?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                      DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
                                      last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                      @KevinMar

                                      M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                                      On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                                      What is your tuning command.

                                      (UTC+1)

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @fcwilt
                                        last edited by

                                        @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                          @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                                          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                            DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
                                            last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                            @kevinmar
                                            CAN addresses set correctly?

                                            (UTC+1)

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