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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @fcwilt
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      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
        DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt
        Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

        (UTC+1)

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          Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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          @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt
          Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

          nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @Dougal1957
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            @dougal1957
            New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

            Another fault:
            a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

            (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @KevinMar
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              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @dougal1957
              New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

              Another fault:
              a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

              (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

              Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

                  So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt They're identical

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @KevinMar
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                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                      @fcwilt They're identical

                      So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                      I assume you re-booted.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • KevinMarundefined
                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt Affirmative

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                          @fcwilt Affirmative

                          Strange problem you are having.

                          You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                          Were all three heating at the time?

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                            DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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                            @KevinMar

                            M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                            On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                            What is your tuning command.

                            (UTC+1)

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                  DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar
                                  CAN addresses set correctly?

                                  (UTC+1)

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @dc42
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                                      @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                      I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                      I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                        @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                          I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                          I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                                          Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                                            If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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