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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

      I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

      I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

      Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

        If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • KevinMarundefined
          KevinMar @dc42
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          @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

          R values were a manual change

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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              @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @dc42
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                @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                  As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                    Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar
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                      The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                        Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

                        I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

                        As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

                        It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                          The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

                          It most certainly is confusing but I would not be surprised if we are overlooking something that should be obvious.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • KevinMarundefined
                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

                                When I'm faced with something like this I resort to a process of elimination, thus my suggestion to configure just one heater to see if it changes anything.

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                  "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                  M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                  M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                  M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

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                                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                    "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                    M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                    M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                    M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

                                    Worth a try.

                                    At some point did you verify that each tool board is actually at the address you are using?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        Can you send M98 P"config.g" to check for any syntax errors?

                                        I'd also suggest generating a basic config using the online tool and trying with that.

                                        Perhaps a photo of the hotend itself my give us some clues.

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

                                          I've got a test setup on my workbench but it only has one tool board connected and it works fine.

                                          Perhaps there is some as yet undiscovered firmware problem that only manifests with multiple tool boards.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt @dc42
                                            Here's my new, super simple config

                                            M550 P"ToolChanger" 					; Set machine name
                                            M111 S0                              	; Debug off
                                            M929 P"eventlog.txt" S1					; Start logging to file eventlog.txt
                                            M555 P1									; Set RepRap output
                                            
                                            G4 S1  									; Wait for expansion boards to start
                                            
                                            
                                            M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000"  A"Ex1"  
                                            
                                            M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2						; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                            
                                            
                                            M307 H2 R2.063 C316.300:132.500 D6.10 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                            
                                            
                                            M143 H2 S300
                                            
                                            M950 F11 C"21.out2"
                                            M106 P11 S255 H2 T70
                                            
                                            
                                            M950 F1 C"21.out1"
                                            
                                            
                                            M563 P1 S"Tool1"  H2 F1
                                            G10  P1 S220 R205
                                            
                                            M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1
                                            
                                            G29 S2
                                            T-1
                                            
                                            M501									; Load config-override.g
                                            
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