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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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      @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar @dc42
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        @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

        I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

        I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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        • KevinMarundefined
          KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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          @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

            I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

            I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

            Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @KevinMar
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              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

              If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @dc42
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                @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                R values were a manual change

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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                    @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @dc42
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                      @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                        As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                          Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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                          • KevinMarundefined
                            KevinMar
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                            The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @KevinMar
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                              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                              Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

                              I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

                              As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

                              It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

                                It most certainly is confusing but I would not be surprised if we are overlooking something that should be obvious.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

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                                    KevinMar @KevinMar
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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

                                      When I'm faced with something like this I resort to a process of elimination, thus my suggestion to configure just one heater to see if it changes anything.

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                        "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                        M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                        M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                        M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

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                                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                          "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                          M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                          M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                          M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

                                          Worth a try.

                                          At some point did you verify that each tool board is actually at the address you are using?

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

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