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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @KevinMar
      last edited by fcwilt

      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

      Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

      I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

      As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

      It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

        It most certainly is confusing but I would not be surprised if we are overlooking something that should be obvious.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • KevinMarundefined
          KevinMar @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

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            KevinMar @KevinMar
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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @KevinMar
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              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

              When I'm faced with something like this I resort to a process of elimination, thus my suggestion to configure just one heater to see if it changes anything.

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                  "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                  M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                  M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                  M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

                  Worth a try.

                  At some point did you verify that each tool board is actually at the address you are using?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      Can you send M98 P"config.g" to check for any syntax errors?

                      I'd also suggest generating a basic config using the online tool and trying with that.

                      Perhaps a photo of the hotend itself my give us some clues.

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

                        I've got a test setup on my workbench but it only has one tool board connected and it works fine.

                        Perhaps there is some as yet undiscovered firmware problem that only manifests with multiple tool boards.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt @dc42
                          Here's my new, super simple config

                          M550 P"ToolChanger" 					; Set machine name
                          M111 S0                              	; Debug off
                          M929 P"eventlog.txt" S1					; Start logging to file eventlog.txt
                          M555 P1									; Set RepRap output
                          
                          G4 S1  									; Wait for expansion boards to start
                          
                          
                          M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000"  A"Ex1"  
                          
                          M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2						; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                          
                          
                          M307 H2 R2.063 C316.300:132.500 D6.10 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                          
                          
                          M143 H2 S300
                          
                          M950 F11 C"21.out2"
                          M106 P11 S255 H2 T70
                          
                          
                          M950 F1 C"21.out1"
                          
                          
                          M563 P1 S"Tool1"  H2 F1
                          G10  P1 S220 R205
                          
                          M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1
                          
                          G29 S2
                          T-1
                          
                          M501									; Load config-override.g
                          
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                          • KevinMarundefined
                            KevinMar @KevinMar
                            last edited by KevinMar

                            boom, fault at 70c

                            It's most commonly faulting at 70c, which is when my hotend cooling fan is enabled

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @KevinMar
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                              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              M307 H2 R2.063 C316.300:132.500 D6.10 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                                                                                                                                                                                      M501									; Load config-override.g
                              

                              Does that M307 line match what gets loaded by config-override?

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux always

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  And if you execute M98 P"config.g" does it show any errors?

                                  If you delete config-override.g completely and remove the M307 line entirely from config.g, reboot the board and tune from scratch and save with M500 does it produce the same M307 line?

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @KevinMar
                                    last edited by fcwilt

                                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    boom, fault at 70c

                                    Drat.

                                    Does the fault occur when the temp is rising? peaked? dropping?

                                    Did you leave all the tool boards connected?

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt All boards connected, happens ALWAYS when heating up. Never reaches peak or anything

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        @fcwilt All boards connected, happens ALWAYS when heating up. Never reaches peak or anything

                                        But it seems to be happening when the cooling fan kicks in?

                                        Have you changed the temp of the cooling fan to see if the fault tracks that temp?

                                        How about adding a M570 for that heater and increase the default P parameter value (5) to something like 30.

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt Yeah, lowered the fan temp to 50, still faulted at about 78C.

                                          M750 is at P10, will raise to 30

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @fcwilt Yeah, lowered the fan temp to 50, still faulted at about 78C.

                                            M750 is at P10, will raise to 30

                                            I'm interested to see which parameters affect when the fault occurs.

                                            It seems we don't know exactly what condition is occurring that is triggering the fault.

                                            Does a M122 report anything related to the fault?

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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