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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

      Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar
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        The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @KevinMar
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          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

          Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

          I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

          As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

          It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @KevinMar
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            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

            It most certainly is confusing but I would not be surprised if we are overlooking something that should be obvious.

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

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                KevinMar @KevinMar
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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

                  When I'm faced with something like this I resort to a process of elimination, thus my suggestion to configure just one heater to see if it changes anything.

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                    "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                    M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                    M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                    M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @KevinMar
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                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                      @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                      "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                      M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                      M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                      M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

                      Worth a try.

                      At some point did you verify that each tool board is actually at the address you are using?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • KevinMarundefined
                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Can you send M98 P"config.g" to check for any syntax errors?

                          I'd also suggest generating a basic config using the online tool and trying with that.

                          Perhaps a photo of the hotend itself my give us some clues.

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

                            I've got a test setup on my workbench but it only has one tool board connected and it works fine.

                            Perhaps there is some as yet undiscovered firmware problem that only manifests with multiple tool boards.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt @dc42
                              Here's my new, super simple config

                              M550 P"ToolChanger" 					; Set machine name
                              M111 S0                              	; Debug off
                              M929 P"eventlog.txt" S1					; Start logging to file eventlog.txt
                              M555 P1									; Set RepRap output
                              
                              G4 S1  									; Wait for expansion boards to start
                              
                              
                              M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000"  A"Ex1"  
                              
                              M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2						; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                              
                              
                              M307 H2 R2.063 C316.300:132.500 D6.10 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                              
                              
                              M143 H2 S300
                              
                              M950 F11 C"21.out2"
                              M106 P11 S255 H2 T70
                              
                              
                              M950 F1 C"21.out1"
                              
                              
                              M563 P1 S"Tool1"  H2 F1
                              G10  P1 S220 R205
                              
                              M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1
                              
                              G29 S2
                              T-1
                              
                              M501									; Load config-override.g
                              
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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @KevinMar
                                last edited by KevinMar

                                boom, fault at 70c

                                It's most commonly faulting at 70c, which is when my hotend cooling fan is enabled

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  M307 H2 R2.063 C316.300:132.500 D6.10 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                                                                                                                                                                                          M501									; Load config-override.g
                                  

                                  Does that M307 line match what gets loaded by config-override?

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @Phaedrux
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                                    @phaedrux always

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      And if you execute M98 P"config.g" does it show any errors?

                                      If you delete config-override.g completely and remove the M307 line entirely from config.g, reboot the board and tune from scratch and save with M500 does it produce the same M307 line?

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @KevinMar
                                        last edited by fcwilt

                                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        boom, fault at 70c

                                        Drat.

                                        Does the fault occur when the temp is rising? peaked? dropping?

                                        Did you leave all the tool boards connected?

                                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt All boards connected, happens ALWAYS when heating up. Never reaches peak or anything

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @fcwilt All boards connected, happens ALWAYS when heating up. Never reaches peak or anything

                                            But it seems to be happening when the cooling fan kicks in?

                                            Have you changed the temp of the cooling fan to see if the fault tracks that temp?

                                            How about adding a M570 for that heater and increase the default P parameter value (5) to something like 30.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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