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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt They're identical

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @fcwilt They're identical

        So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

        I assume you re-booted.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • KevinMarundefined
          KevinMar @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt Affirmative

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @KevinMar
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            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            @fcwilt Affirmative

            Strange problem you are having.

            You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

            Were all three heating at the time?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
              DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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              @KevinMar

              M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

              On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
              What is your tuning command.

              (UTC+1)

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                  @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                  • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                    DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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                    @kevinmar
                    CAN addresses set correctly?

                    (UTC+1)

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                      @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • KevinMarundefined
                        KevinMar @dc42
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                        @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                        I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                        I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                          @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                            I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                            I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                            Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @KevinMar
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                              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                              If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @dc42
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                                @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                                R values were a manual change

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                                • KevinMarundefined
                                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @dc42
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                                      @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                                        As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                                          Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar
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                                            The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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