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    • peirofundefined
      peirof
      last edited by peirof

      Hi,
      If nothing happens, today I will start with the wiring and the new printer, but I have an existential doubt. I do not know where to put the 5" tactile screen, in the original design it does not have, it is recycled from my previous printer, and I consider it a "must...

      The printer is a Ratrig v3, with top lid, attached images

      il_794xN.3543235567_la31.jpg

      I have finished assembling the mechanical part of the printer, if nothing happens, today I will start with the wiring.

      I don't know where to put it... I would like it to be as close as possible to the print head. At first I had thought of the toplid, but when you need the screen the most, I at least, it's the beginner of printing, and possibly the toplid is open...

      Do you have a screen installed in a corexy? And where?

      Ideas are welcome.

      Thx

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        what about off to the side above the door hinge?

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • rjenkinsgbundefined
          rjenkinsgb
          last edited by

          On my CoreXY, it's bracketed to the front of the top frame - but mine is completely open construction.
          https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/25709/meet-the-frankentron

          With that enclosure, all I can think of is adding an arm to one side, around the mid frame level, and mount the screen enclosure to that.

          Or if the machine will be used on a bench or desk, it's possibly better to the side of the base frame so it's nearer normal eye level?

          I have the screen in front of the base frame on my Kossel, that lives on a table.

          Robert J.

          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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          • oliofundefined
            oliof
            last edited by

            I'd put it left of the handle for the top enclosure, but on the top frame of the main enclosure. Alternately, have a number of adjustable steel pads and a magnetic base on the display, with a retro spiral cable from display to the board.

            <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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            • peirofundefined
              peirof @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux It was a possibility, but I don't know if I can, I want to modify the enclosure, so that it has side doors ...

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              • peirofundefined
                peirof @oliof
                last edited by peirof

                @rjenkinsgb interesting, a photo can be?

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                • peirofundefined
                  peirof @rjenkinsgb
                  last edited by

                  @rjenkinsgb Yes, I had thought something like that, but that "arm", in the upper part, so that it is near the bed when I start printing, which is when more adjustments have to be made with the due panel

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                  • JoergS5undefined
                    JoergS5
                    last edited by JoergS5

                    I would hide it with (inside) a drawer and pull out when in usage, with a hinge to turn it where you wish to see the screen.

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                    • mrehorstdmdundefined
                      mrehorstdmd @peirof
                      last edited by

                      @peirof I put the Panel Due on top, with the rest of the electronics.

                      alt text

                      https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                      • peirofundefined
                        peirof @mrehorstdmd
                        last edited by

                        @mrehorstdmd interesting approach.... But the doubt arises to me, if in a corexy printer.. It is advisable to have access from the top to the print head (loading filament, jams, maintenance,...) perhaps doing it on the front and sides is difficult.

                        At the moment, I opt for the option of the arm, in the upper part ... Another option I've considered.... It's floating... In a housing that can be moved and fastened at various points on the printer... But, I don't see it clearly

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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5 @peirof
                          last edited by

                          @peirof said in Corexy and sceeen:

                          moved and fastened at various points on the printer.

                          There was a Wifi solution somewhere, this would be an option if you want to move it.
                          Or this here with Bluetooth: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/25840/replace-the-wire-with-bluetooth-module-hc-05

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                          • peirofundefined
                            peirof @JoergS5
                            last edited by

                            @joergs5 It is interesting ... but I see problems, the one who comments in the post ... how do you turn on / give power to the screen ...

                            For that I use the smartphone and the app...
                            No, I prefer the connection ... maybe in a "floating" configuration, where the screen is on a stand connected with the longest possible cable to the board ...

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                            • rjenkinsgbundefined
                              rjenkinsgb @peirof
                              last edited by rjenkinsgb

                              @peirof said in Corexy and sceeen:

                              No, I prefer the connection ... maybe in a "floating" configuration, where the screen is on a stand connected with the longest possible cable to the board ...

                              Something like that crossed my mind, with trying to locate the screen reasonably but also be able to open the machine doors.

                              The solution I was thinking of was something like an anglepoise or gooseneck microphone stand, that will hold position but can be moved around easily.
                              eg. these styles, with appropriate adapters to the paneldue case
                              https://www.amazon.co.uk/InnoGear-Professional-Adjustable-Microphone-Suspension/dp/B01NH31CLK/ref=sr_1_11

                              https://www.amazon.co.uk/Perfeclan-Microphone-Flexible-Gooseneck-Adjustable-Black/dp/B093PTXSF6/ref=sr_1_9

                              Robert J.

                              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                              • peirofundefined
                                peirof @rjenkinsgb
                                last edited by

                                @rjenkinsgb mmm... I like that idea, it has potential... The next thing is to know if the cable would reach me, I think not... Can the longest cable be used to join duet board with due panel

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                                • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                  mrehorstdmd @peirof
                                  last edited by mrehorstdmd

                                  @peirof It's very easy to access the XY mechanism from the front of the printer. The bottom of the electronics enclosure is about 280 mm above the Y axis guide rails. Putting the electronics at the top keeps cables to the XY and extruder carriage short, and allows easy servicing of the electronics (no crawling on the floor!).

                                  At one time I considered making the XY/electronics as a "module" that could be dropped onto different size Z axis frames. A short Z axis frame could be used for "portability" (trade shows, etc.) and a longer one for fixed use.

                                  I feed the filament straight down, through the electronics enclosure so there is a short, straight path to the extruder. The filament holder sits on top as in the photo. Inside the electronics enclosure there is a printed cone, the apex of which supports the center of the top cover. The wider base of the cone is on the lower top cover (the roof in the printer) with a large opening so the filament easily moves around with the extruder carriage. You can see the cone in this photo:

                                  alt text

                                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                  • rjenkinsgbundefined
                                    rjenkinsgb @peirof
                                    last edited by

                                    @peirof said in Corexy and sceeen:

                                    Can the longest cable be used to join duet board with due panel

                                    It's only serial data, so the cable is not ultra-critical.

                                    If it were to be long enough so voltage drops became a concern, I'd suggest something like six core cable, arranged eg. as two ground and two power with the data wires having one of the grounds inbetween them to minimise crosstalk.

                                    Robert J.

                                    Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @rjenkinsgb
                                      last edited by Phaedrux

                                      @rjenkinsgb said in Corexy and sceeen:

                                      @peirof said in Corexy and sceeen:

                                      Can the longest cable be used to join duet board with due panel

                                      It's only serial data, so the cable is not ultra-critical.

                                      If it were to be long enough so voltage drops became a concern, I'd suggest something like six core cable, arranged eg. as two ground and two power with the data wires having one of the grounds inbetween them to minimise crosstalk.

                                      The length of the 4-way cable is not critical, however the resistance per conductor should not exceed 0.1 ohm. The SD card socket on the TFT panel will not be functional. The cables supplied by Escher3D and Duet3D are about 800mm long. There have been reports of cables up to 1500mm long being successfully used. Take care to route the cable away from motor and endstop cables. Twisting the cables may help prevent cross talk interference.

                                      Official recommendation for PanelDue cabling. There have been cases where the Paneldue cable can pick up interference and cause issues.

                                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_an_LCD_control_panel#Section_Option_1_4_way_cable

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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