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Simple relay control... or not?

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    droftarts administrators @Nightowl
    last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 10:26

    @nightowl999 Then don't use the heater outputs, as 24V will be too much for the relay. You can use a fan output, with the fan voltage set to 12V. I would imagine the current draw of a relay is less than 2A.

    Ian

    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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      Nightowl @droftarts
      last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 10:46

      Thanks, @droftarts. Does that mean I could use Out 7, 8 or 9 and change your code accordingly, or are they 24V because I'm using a 24V PSU?

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        droftarts administrators @Nightowl
        last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 10:50

        @nightowl999 You can use out4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9. Above each bank (out4-6 and out7-9) there is a 3-pin header. This selects the voltage for each bank, and can be set to V_FUSED (fused VIN, ie 24V) or 12V (using the onboard 12V reglator).

        See the wiring diagram for setting: https://docs.duet3d.com/Duet3D_hardware/Duet_3_family/Duet_3_Mainboard_6HC_Hardware_Overview#wiring-diagram

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          Nightowl @droftarts
          last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 10:54

          Brilliant, thank you @droftarts!

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            paolozampini1973 @droftarts
            last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 12:16

            @droftarts said in Simple relay control... or not?:

            @nightowl999 Then don't use the heater outputs, as 24V will be too much for the relay. You can use a fan output, with the fan voltage set to 12V. I would imagine the current draw of a relay is less than 2A.

            Ian

            RELAY 20 MHA MAX 80MHA

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              jumpedwithbothfeet @droftarts
              last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 13:39

              @droftarts said in Simple relay control... or not?:

              @nightowl999 Then don't use the heater outputs, as 24V will be too much for the relay. You can use a fan output, with the fan voltage set to 12V. I would imagine the current draw of a relay is less than 2A.

              Ian

              Isn't the maximum amps 800mA at 12V? or am I reading it wrong?

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                droftarts administrators @jumpedwithbothfeet
                last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 13:48

                @jumpedwithbothfeet Yes, you're right. It's 2A with V_Fused, 800mA total current with 12V. Looks like the relay is well below this, though.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                  jumpedwithbothfeet @droftarts
                  last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 13:54

                  @droftarts I was half hoping it was 2 amps it would of simplified my wiring a fair bit!

                  6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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                    Nightowl @droftarts
                    last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 14:34

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                      Nightowl @droftarts
                      last edited by Nightowl 27 Apr 2022, 17:45

                      @droftarts said in Simple relay control... or not?:

                      Just as a quick follow-up, this should work, then:

                      M950 R0 C"out4+out7"

                      ...with the relay wires connected to the pins of Out 7 and the Out 7-9 jumper between V_OUTLC2 and 12V?

                      Thank you 👍

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                        jay_s_uk @Nightowl
                        last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 17:46

                        @nightowl999 yep

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          Nightowl @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 17:54

                          Spiffing, @jay_s_uk 😀 😀

                          And then it will 'activate' with M3 and deactivate with M5.

                          Thank you @jay_s_uk

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                            alankilian @Nightowl
                            last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 17:55

                            @nightowl999

                            I just read the Amazon description for your relay-control module and it says it can be triggered by an Arduino using any voltage from 3 to 14 Volts, so you don't need to worry about drawing too much power from the onboard 12 Volt supply at all.

                            Where did you read that it takes 2 Amps to drive the module? I'd like to verify that.

                            SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                              Nightowl @alankilian
                              last edited by Nightowl 27 Apr 2022, 17:55

                              Erm, I didn't @alankilian. That was @jumpedwithbothfeet wishing it was 2A!

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                                alankilian @Nightowl
                                last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 17:58

                                @nightowl999 said in Simple relay control... or not?:

                                Erm, I didn't @alankilian. That was @jumpedwithbothfeet wishing it was 2A!

                                OK, I got it.

                                It looks like you're in good shape!

                                🙂

                                SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                  Nightowl @alankilian
                                  last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 18:01

                                  @alankilian
                                  Yep. Just keep an eye out for a big cloud of smoke in SW England. If there is one, it didn't work 😱 😱

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                                    dc42 administrators @Nightowl
                                    last edited by dc42 27 Apr 2022, 18:07

                                    @nightowl999 have you considered using the Laser/VFD output to drive the relay module? It provides a 5V signal.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                      Nightowl @dc42
                                      last edited by 27 Apr 2022, 22:22

                                      My intention is to 'upgrade' to a milling motor in the not too distant future, @dc42, so I was going to leave the Laser/VFD output for that.

                                      Doing it this way for now will support both my router and dust collector, and just the dust collector when I've saved enough for the MM.

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                                        Nightowl @alankilian
                                        last edited by 28 Apr 2022, 16:38

                                        @alankilian Ah, perhaps not.

                                        I think I've missed something because, when I send the M3 code from the Console, I get the error:

                                        M3
                                        Error: M3: No P parameter and no active tool with spindle.

                                        Am I supposed to configure this elsewhere in the config.g file?

                                        Thank you

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                                          alankilian @Nightowl
                                          last edited by 28 Apr 2022, 16:47

                                          @nightowl999

                                          From the GCODE page:

                                          "It is an error if there is no tool active or the active tool does not have a spindle assigned and there is no P parameter provided to define which spindle this should be applied to."

                                          Maybe you just need to select a tool using a T command? REFERENCE

                                          Or you need to define a tool using M563 ?

                                          SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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