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    • mikep91undefined
      mikep91 @DIY-O-Sphere
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      @DIY-O-Sphere

      Does not work properly either.

      I think maybe my heaters, sensors & tools is mismatching somehow.

      When i PID turned heater 3 it didnt heat properly either.

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      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
        DIY-O-Sphere @mikep91
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        @mikep91

        I suspect the firmware is confused because it is not a complete configuration.
        Maybe you can describe what you want to do.
        As I understand it, you only want to control 3 heaters?

        (UTC+1)

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        • mikep91undefined
          mikep91 @DIY-O-Sphere
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          @DIY-O-Sphere

          Yes i want to control just 3 different heaters (all for an extruder/hotend), one from the bed output on the duet. two others from the regular E outputs.
          and all with 3 different sensors - PT100 on the duet aswell

          Then i want to map the 3 sensors and heaters to heater 1 2 and 3 , but it keeps turning up as they are mixed up, or one of them on the bed heater output...

          Looking something like this:

          M308 S0 P"spi.cs3" Y"rtd-max31865" ; configure sensor 0 as PT100 on pin spi.cs3
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
          M143 H0 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

          M308 S1 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865" ; configure sensor 1 as thermocouple via CS pin spi.cs1
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

          M308 S2 P"spi.cs2" Y"rtd-max31865" ; configure sensor 2 as thermocouple via CS pin spi.cs2
          M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
          M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
          M143 H2 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

          I am quite confused of the P1, P2 and how to configure them to the correct "tool" in the dwc and duet display - so i am sure my heaters match etc.

          M563 P1 H0 F0 ; define tool 1
          G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
          G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          M563 P2 H1 F0 ; define tool 2
          G10 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 2 axis offsets
          G10 P2 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          M563 P3 H2 F0 ; define tool 3
          G10 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 3 axis offsets
          G10 P3 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 3 active and standby temperatures to 0C

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          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
            DIY-O-Sphere @mikep91
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            @mikep91
            The tool count starts with 0.
            So P0 Is tool1

            (UTC+1)

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Also make sure your firmware is update and that DWC version matches. You should also update your paneldue firmware.

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              • mikep91undefined
                mikep91 @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux

                Paneldue is up to 1.25 now this was updated and works great!

                Looking at the PT100 - which side is spi.cs1 & which side is spi.cs2? when i plug another one on top - i suppose that becomes spi.cs3&4?

                pt100.png

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  The sides have silk screen labels of RTD1 and RTD2.
                  And yes when you stack two of them the next ones are spi.cs3 & 4.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @mikep91
                    last edited by

                    @mikep91 said in Duet 2 Wifi 3 Heater control using bed output + messed up tools:

                    Paneldue is up to 1.25

                    Should probably update to the 3.x firmware there as well.

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                    • mikep91undefined
                      mikep91 @Phaedrux
                      last edited by mikep91

                      @Phaedrux

                      The 1.25 works on 2x setups with only 2 heaters - I am only having problems assigning the heaters on the 3rd setup that needs 3 heaters.

                      Could a problem be that i start up by assigning H0? Looking at the duet display - i am using the 3 marked heaters. - e0heat - e1heat and H3 "bedheat"

                      heater123.png

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Why are you using the expansion header? Why not the actual bed heater output?

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                        • mikep91undefined
                          mikep91 @Phaedrux
                          last edited by mikep91

                          @Phaedrux

                          It is for controlling a 3 heater hotend (Dyze Pulsar)

                          Therefor I am turning off the bed heater - but my tool mapping seems to be wrong so i keep getting the 3rd temperature on the bed heater output instead of a 3rd tool - and at the same time I'm get them mismatched somehow....

                          Will do some wiring checks and numbering of wires tomorrow hopefully sort it up.

                          Am not using heated bed - so I know I should do a H-1 to turn it off. but the mapping seems to go on that tool

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Are you using a heated bed, or not?

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                            • mikep91undefined
                              mikep91 @Phaedrux
                              last edited by mikep91

                              @Phaedrux

                              No - not controlled off the DUET - duet is only supposed to be controlling 3 heaters in one hotend

                              Elaborated in answer above

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @mikep91
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                                @mikep91 said in Duet 2 Wifi 3 Heater control using bed output + messed up tools:

                                Am not using heated bed - so I know I should do a H-1 to turn it off. but the mapping seems to go on that tool

                                If you're not using a bed heater you can use the output for your 3rd extruder heater, then you don't need to use the expansion headers, which aren't really intended to be used directly by a heater.

                                If you don't define a bed heater you don't need a H-1 to disable it.

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                                • mikep91undefined
                                  mikep91 @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux

                                  Makes sense and would be alot better as the connections on the expansion is quite poor compared to the bed and extruder connections.

                                  How would the M command look for mapping the 3rd heater to the bed instead of the expansion?

                                  M308 S1 P"spi.cs3" Y"rtd-max31865" ;
                                  M950 H1 C"bedheat" T0 ;
                                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ;
                                  M143 H1 S280 ;

                                  Something like this - whilst not using H-1 to cancel it out?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    So if I understand your setup, and I'm not sure that I do, you'd have something like this for a single tool, using 3 heaters together, and no bed heater, with PT100 temp sensors.

                                    ; Heaters
                                    M140 H-1                                ; disable heated bed (overrides default heater mapping)
                                    M308 S0 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865"      ; configure sensor 0 as PT100 on pin spi.cs1
                                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                   ; create nozzle heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                    M307 H0 B0 S1.00                        ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                    M143 H0 S280                            ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 280C
                                    M308 S1 P"spi.cs2" Y"rtd-max31865"      ; configure sensor 1 as PT100 on pin spi.cs2
                                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                    ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                        ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                    M143 H1 S280                            ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                    M308 S2 P"spi.cs3" Y"rtd-max31865"      ; configure sensor 2 as PT100 on pin spi.cs3
                                    M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2                    ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
                                    M307 H2 B0 S1.00                        ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                    M143 H2 S280                            ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
                                    
                                    ; Fans
                                    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                    ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P0 S0 H-1                          ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                    ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P1 S1 H0:1:2 T45                   ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                    
                                    ; Tools
                                    M563 P0 D0 H0:1:2 F0                    ; define tool 0
                                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                         ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                    G10 P0 R0 S0                            ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                    
                                    ; Miscellaneous
                                    T0                                      ; select first tool
                                    

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                                    • mikep91undefined
                                      mikep91 @Phaedrux
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                                      @Phaedrux

                                      Yeah im sorry for being not very precise - I am using a pellet hotend on a robotic arm, so the duet is only to control the heaters. But it has 3 heat zones - so i would need individual control of each heat zone mapped to a specific sensor.

                                      Would this give me 3 individual heaters to control on the duet display?

                                      I will do a test first thing tomorrow morning with this - thank you!

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        Does the Duet even need to know it's a tool? If it's only doing heater control and no motion planning I think you could leave out the tool and fan definition.

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                                        • mikep91undefined
                                          mikep91 @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux

                                          No it does not actually - i thought these commands were what gave me temp control on the display

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                                          • mikep91undefined
                                            mikep91 @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux

                                            Hello again Phaedrux -

                                            When testing out the config you posted yesterday.

                                            When setting the temperature on the display - I am getting the error "wrong tool"...

                                            How would i correct the tool allocations?

                                            I can turn them on using macros and M commands but not on the display....

                                            Cheers

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