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    jay_s_uk @wdenker
    last edited by 20 Dec 2023, 23:35

    @wdenker it probably needs connecting to a .in rather than a .out

    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      wdenker @jay_s_uk
      last edited by 20 Dec 2023, 23:36

      @jay_s_uk we've tried both in and out.

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        jay_s_uk @wdenker
        last edited by 20 Dec 2023, 23:42

        @wdenker can you confirm your wiring, ideally with pictures , and what type of filament sensor it is?

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          wdenker @jay_s_uk
          last edited by 20 Dec 2023, 23:43

          @jay_s_uk ah you were right. We had to switch it to 5v vs 3.3 and didn't have it on in after we swapped to the 5v. So all of my issues are resolved at this point.

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            wdenker @wdenker
            last edited by 20 Dec 2023, 23:47

            @wdenker Well I got ahead of myself still getting the error just not as often.

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              wdenker @jay_s_uk
              last edited by 20 Dec 2023, 23:52

              @jay_s_uk Here are the pics. I have also updated config to reflect going to io2.in vs out PXL_20231220_234947688.jpg PXL_20231220_234959902.jpg

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                wdenker @wdenker
                last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 05:02

                @Phaedrux any ideas?

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                  droftarts administrators @wdenker
                  last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 11:57

                  @wdenker on Duet 3 boards, io.out pins can be used as inputs, but have no series resistor to offer voltage protection, so are only 3.3V tolerant. It is possible you have damaged the 3HC connecting a 5V endstop to an io.out pin.

                  Have you tried a different filament sensor? It is quite possible that the microswitch or wiring is faulty, or could be picking up interference from motor or heater wiring.

                  Ian

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                    jay_s_uk @wdenker
                    last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 12:01

                    @wdenker are you powering the 5v_ext? have you tried using it with 3.3v as according to the trianglelab docs it also works with that

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      wdenker @jay_s_uk
                      last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 15:33

                      @jay_s_uk we have tried the 3.3 on the duet and it does not work so we figured we have to use the 5 volt.

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                        jay_s_uk @wdenker
                        last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 15:34

                        @wdenker if it doesn't work with 3.3v, which the manufacturer indicates it should, then i guess theres an issue with it

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          wdenker @droftarts
                          last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 15:34

                          @droftarts I would think that I would have only damaged that one port if that was the case. I have tried multiple ports to validate that.

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                            wdenker @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 15:35

                            @jay_s_uk no none of them work with the 3.3 manufacturer claims they are 3.5 from everything I've seen and I have five working ones that I tried on the 3.3 and moved over to the duex 5 And they all work with the 5 volt.

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                              wdenker @jay_s_uk
                              last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:01

                              @jay_s_uk The other thing I am curious about is if the sensor number out of range error in the M98 p"config.g" if that may be somehow causing it but it doesn't give any reference to what is out of range and there are 3.

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                                jay_s_uk @wdenker
                                last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:05

                                @wdenker your sensor number out of range is to do with the way you've set your thermostatic fans up. H100 etc isn't valid

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  wdenker @wdenker
                                  last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:08

                                  @wdenker ah ok well any other things I could try at this point?

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                                    wdenker @jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by wdenker 21 Dec 2023, 16:10

                                    @jay_s_uk I was able to fix that I basically gave it a mcu temp to look at to turn on. Now if I could just figure out this filament sensor I would be golden. I have tried io.0-2 and 3 different sensors that work fine on a duex 5 but coincidentally will not work on the duet.

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                                      jay_s_uk @wdenker
                                      last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:13

                                      @wdenker did you check you were actually supplying 5v to the 5V_EXT?

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                        wdenker @jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:18

                                        @jay_s_uk reads at 4.96 so I should be good there.

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                                          wdenker @jay_s_uk
                                          last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 17:02

                                          @jay_s_uk the funny part of these sensors is that they will not work on a duet 2 wifi but will on a duex 5. So I have tried these sensors on the duet 3 io0-3 at this point on 3.3v or the 5v and the sensor works no problem and reports correctly when I query it with the M591 D0 but still reports every 30 seconds on the dot without any changes no filament and I could query at the same exact time every time and it would report I do have filament and then pop up a split second later saying no filament. Almost like a bug in the firmware.

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