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    • EasyTargetundefined
      EasyTarget
      last edited by

      @carlosspr:

      With this technique we could beat the 1.8 or 0.9 degrees per step resolution.

      Isn't this what microstepping is for?

      Unless your rotation sensor is geared etc so it can beat 1/16 or more of that step resolution (a direct magnetic rotation sensor isn't nearly that accurate) you won't have any more info than you can already derive from the controller by simply asking for it's current position. You can detect missed steps, but the controller already does that for you because the controller already does some of the feedback sensing you are looking for.

      • I'd be more interested in an acceleration sensor in the printhead and feeding back max/min readings from that, then adjusting speeds to keep within boundaries and limits based on this direct observation. Eg Closing the loop with real data, monitoring the belt wont help detect loose belts or sliders snatching/stiction, but an accelerometer would.

      Disaster? The original Printeye is dying with RRF 3.5 (M208 depreciated).
      PrintPy2024 to the rescue!
      MicroPython based; with simple wiring and and no custom PCB.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        Development of the laser filament monitor has stalled because we are too busy with other things at present. We might be willing to supply one of our prototypes to a user who meets the following conditions, to try to speed up finishing it:

        • Must have a functioning 3D printer and a supply of black PLA to print small parts with;
        • Must have enough experience of OpenSCAD to modify an existing design and preferably do new designs;
        • Preferably either be located in the UK or have experience of programming an attiny microcontroller e.g. with an AVRISP Mk2 or an Arduino running ArduinoISP + 6-pin programing connector.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • jbarrosundefined
          jbarros
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          @dc42:

          Development of the laser filament monitor has stalled because we are too busy with other things at present. We might be willing to supply one of our prototypes to a user who meets the following conditions, to try to speed up finishing it:

          • Must have a functioning 3D printer and a supply of black PLA to print small parts with;
          • Must have enough experience of OpenSCAD to modify an existing design and preferably do new designs;
          • Preferably either be located in the UK or have experience of programming an attiny microcontroller e.g. with an AVRISP Mk2 or an Arduino running ArduinoISP + 6-pin programing connector.

          Having lost yet another piece, this one a 19h print because of a "knot" on the filament roll, I'm highly motivated to get a laser filament monitor.

          Is this opportunity still on the table?

          Have almost 2 printers (finishing up a HEVO), Duet Wifis and just got an IR probe.
          Not an OpenSCAD expert but hey if it's programmable… 😉
          Lots of Arduinos and other microcontrollers and programmers.
          Portugal based but willing to pay for all expenses.

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          • Mystaundefined
            Mysta
            last edited by

            Are these still available? to US?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by T3P3Tony

              We are making a batch of prototype laser filament monitors later this month.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • fmaundefined
                fma
                last edited by

                I'm interested to test one of these, with a few folks of our hackerspace, in France (https://www.logre.eu/wiki)... we have all asked skills.

                Frédéric

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                • THPundefined
                  THP
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                  @dc42
                  I would be very interested in working on this, I PM'ed you a couple of weeks ago regarding assisting with the laser filament monitor. I am located in the USA with the needed tools to program the attiny. I can even do smd board assembly if needed.

                  Custom IDEX with Duet Ethernet & x5, IR probe, Titan Aero w/ PT100s, Heated Bed, and Chamber with Thermocouples.

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators
                    last edited by

                    I am compiling a list big people who have volunteered, thanks! It will be at least 4 weeks before we get the components and I intend to test a large batch to looks for consistency first. Updates to follow.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • pjr3Dundefined
                      pjr3D
                      last edited by

                      Please add me to the beta test list also. I am happy to test and report and plan to buy several for my machines on release.

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                      • briangilbertundefined
                        briangilbert
                        last edited by

                        @T3P3Tony please count me in if there is still room for more testers

                        Co-creator of the Zesty Nimble direct drive extruder

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                        • adam2070undefined
                          adam2070 @T3P3Tony
                          last edited by

                          @t3p3tony Please add me to the list to purchase beta board. i have been looking forward to testing one out since moving from ramps to DUET.

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                          • nopheadundefined
                            nophead @dc42
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                            @dc42 said in Laser filament monitor:

                            We might be willing to supply one of our prototypes to a user who meets the following conditions, to try to speed up finishing it:

                            I think I meet those requirements and would like to test one of these.

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                            • timcurtis67undefined
                              timcurtis67
                              last edited by

                              i would like to purchase 2 when they come available to run on my IDEX machine.

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                We expect to have plenty of these beta units available for purchase. We know that they can detect reliably when the filament has run out, or when it has become stuck because of a total nozzle blockage - just like the laser filament sensor on the genuine Prusa i3. But we were hoping to do better than that. What we can't guarantee is that these sensors will be able to alert you to a problem that reduces the actual extrusion amount by a substantial proportion, when some extrusion is still occurring.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • alfqueenundefined
                                  alfqueen
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                                  I would also like to buy some sensors for my 3 printers, I have 2 deltas and a core xy with 3 duet wifi and it is a complement that I think is essential for long impressions. Thinking about the quality of their products, this sensor will be wonderful. I hope news.

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                                  • keyz182undefined
                                    keyz182 @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42 said in Laser filament monitor:

                                    • Must have a functioning 3D printer and a supply of black PLA to print small parts with;
                                    • Must have enough experience of OpenSCAD to modify an existing design and preferably do new designs;
                                    • Preferably either be located in the UK or have experience of programming an attiny microcontroller e.g. with an AVRISP Mk2 or an Arduino running ArduinoISP + 6-pin programing connector.

                                    If there's still room on the list, I meet these criteria (aside from having black PLA, but that's just an Amazon prime order away).

                                    I also have an AVRISP MK2, and an ATMEL-ICE (I'd intended to have a go at developing on the RepRapFirmware, and doing on board debugging, at some point, but have been too busy with work).

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                                    • Monster Deltaundefined
                                      Monster Delta
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                                      Hi can you add me to the list please i believe i have the required skills and i have a large format delta capable of printing small parts and also very large parts some prints running for 3 weeks

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                                      • auserundefined
                                        auser
                                        last edited by

                                        could you please add myself to the list of people interesed in a beta laser-filament-monitor?

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                                        • designedby36undefined
                                          designedby36
                                          last edited by

                                          Can you add me to the list I have a print farm that i am converting over to duet's and filament monitoring is a must. Happy at the moment if it just detects a jam or filament out.

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                                          • AS-3D Druckundefined
                                            AS-3D Druck
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                                            I know it is realy hard to say but will this Sensor cost less than 50$ and will it be avaible at 2018?

                                            Best regards
                                            AS-3D Druck / Andre

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