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    • PlasticMetalundefined
      PlasticMetal
      last edited by

      I can't find the link right now, but it clearly gave information that the minimum turn radius for steel-corded GT2 belts was larger than even 20-tooth pulleys. Consequently, the thin cords work harden and snap, allowing the rubber to stretch.

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      • Hobsieundefined
        Hobsie @PlasticMetal
        last edited by

        @plasticmetal had I seen that advice before I might have been able to avoid this whole thing!

        I suspect that’s what has happened, pulling the belt apart in my hands it snapped pretty easily at the point where it was engaging with the pulley while the rest of it was still pretty solid.

        I had some spare rubber belts so I’ve gone back to those and all seems to work well again.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          I tried some of the white steel core belt for a while on my coreXY and that lasted for about a week. The belts felt spongy and didn't appear to be very good quality despite being more expensive. I swapped them out for normal belt again before anything went really wrong, but I could tell that something was bound to. Now I'm waiting for some genuine Gates belts.

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @Hobsie
            last edited by T3P3Tony

            @hobsie Belts with an aramid fiber or equivalent in are the best (like the gates ones) as they can handle the turn radius but also do not stretch (as some of the cheaper belts do.

            P.S. glad you got it working!

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            • whosrdaddyundefined
              whosrdaddy @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux : where did you find genuine gates belts online (at least an European source...)

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @whosrdaddy
                last edited by

                @whosrdaddy well I should say "genuine" as I haven't seen them myself yet, but they are from an eBay vendor based in Hong Kong. The only reason I bothered was that several people on the DBot Facebook group vouch for them being legit.

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                • whosrdaddyundefined
                  whosrdaddy @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  Yeah saw those, don't know if they are genuine though.
                  The only genuine sources I found are all american.
                  For example this one:

                  http://www.royalsupply.com/store/pc/Gates-LL2MR09-PowerGrip-GT2-Long-Length-Belting-9396-0052-1045p20524.htm

                  shipping cost from US is not cheap and minimum order is 50 feet 😞

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                  • timcurtis67undefined
                    timcurtis67
                    last edited by

                    You can check here. http://www.sdp-si.com/index.php

                    I get my belts and pulleys from this place. Not sure how the shipping would be but there isn't any minimums on belt lengths.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @whosrdaddy
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                      @whosrdaddy Belts came today. I'm not sure if they are genuine, good fakes, or bad fakes, but they definitely look different than the usual black belts. I won't be able to actually test them out until next week unfortunately, but maybe from these pictures someone can tell me if they look legit or not.

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                      • whosrdaddyundefined
                        whosrdaddy
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for that, it surely looks like the real thing.
                        Keep us posted how they perform 🙂

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @whosrdaddy
                          last edited by

                          @whosrdaddy Belts have been installed. They definitely feel different compared to the usual black belts. They are more flexible and don't spring back into shape as much. When pulling on the new belt by hand it doesn't feel like it gives as much stretch either. The tooth side has a brown color and the smooth side has a crackled appearance and texture. The fibres are all contained within the belt. I've had many cheap belts where the fibres are all coming loose out the sides of the belt. These ones have nice clean edges.

                          I've only done a single 6 hour print with them but so far the surface quality appears to be good.

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                          • Dougal1957undefined
                            Dougal1957
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                            Can you provide a link to the supplier please

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Dougal1957
                              last edited by

                              @dougal1957 Sure. Here you go. I'm not affiliated with this seller in any way. I only heard about it through the DBot facebook group.

                              https://www.ebay.com/itm/2M-GATES-6mm-2GT-GT2-RF-Fiber-Glass-Reinforced-Rubber-Timing-Belt-for-3D-Printer/141938661911

                              In my case shipping was less than 30 days and arrived via china mail air pack.

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                              • Hobsieundefined
                                Hobsie @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux Thanks for the link Phaedrux. Just ordered some myself.

                                Judging from the images you've posted, even if they're "fake Gates" they look pretty good quality.

                                Also, an fyi for everyone/anyone - i've gone and edited the reprap wiki page on choosing belts to include a wee warning about steel core polyurethane belts and small pulley diameters for others to find.

                                Link here: https://reprap.org/wiki/Choosing_Belts_and_Pulleys

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Hobsie
                                  last edited by Phaedrux

                                  @hobsie so far the print quality with these belts has been phenomenal. If they are fake they are good ones. I think the biggest thing I noticed about them is that they are all cut very straight. The other belts seem to have a bit of wander. These are dead straight and they stay centered on the pulleys. They also sound quieter. I'm very pleased.

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