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    • chriskimbrundefined
      chriskimbr
      last edited by chriskimbr

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      Running duet with this mosfet connected to bed.

      Bed temp 55c
      Hot end running at 220c

      Smelling burnt plastic, look down and see the mosfet pla cover melting.

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      • gavatron3000undefined
        gavatron3000
        last edited by

        Did you give the heat sink any airflow?

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        • chriskimbrundefined
          chriskimbr @gavatron3000
          last edited by

          @gavatron3000 Just the vents that you see.

          Been running it like this, for some reason it got really hot this time.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Yikes. 😬

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • frank26080115undefined
              frank26080115
              last edited by

              Got any specs of your hardware? How much current you are passing? On resistance of the MOSFET? It'll be a good case study.

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              • Edgars Batnaundefined
                Edgars Batna
                last edited by

                That doesn't look like proper airflow to me. I suppose the widening gaps prevented it from catching fire. My suggestion is to make a force-ventilated case that encompasses all the components as opposed to covering them one by one.

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                • NeoandGeoundefined
                  NeoandGeo
                  last edited by

                  I had an identical looking Mosfet almost catch fire about a year ago. Had proper airflow over the top of it. Buying cheap random brand parts from Amazon usually works out great, but sometimes you get a dud.

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User @chriskimbr
                    last edited by

                    @chriskimbr

                    • always-on fan on top?

                    • next enclosure out of PolyCarbonat (choose black for UV-protection) (is flame reluctant (not unflammable, but at least it takes longer))?

                    ?

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                    • chriskimbrundefined
                      chriskimbr @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @lb Found out why it overheated. On the mainboard where you screw in the bed heater wires, they were little exposed and touching. so it arced and started heating up. Make sure when you screw your wires into board that no metal wire is exposed and that its covered so they don't touch or arc.

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                      • gtj0undefined
                        gtj0 @chriskimbr
                        last edited by

                        @chriskimbr That's what the ferrules are for. 🙂

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User @gtj0
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                          @gtj0

                          But even with ferrules you need a good light if you do that in the night, because in a dim lit room it happened to me that even with ferrule-crimping I missed one of those wires thin like a hair... 😉 but yeah it is always good to do the complicated things in the morning with the sun shining I guess

                          @chriskimbr

                          Will check on saturady my wiring again after seeing your picture 😞 good luck & thanks for sharing!

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                          • fmaundefined
                            fma
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                            I recently bought some fire retardant ABS, from here:

                            http://www.sovb3d.fr/abs-175mm-ignifuge-1kg/52-fil-abs-blanc-ignifuge-175mm-1kg.html

                            I ran a test, and it indeed does not propagate fire.

                            Frédéric

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                            • zaptaundefined
                              zapta
                              last edited by

                              You want to use low ON resistance mosfet to reduce the generated heat. For example, like this one

                              https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=288

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                              • JRDMundefined
                                JRDM
                                last edited by

                                Did you need more than 15A of current, and if so, why?

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                                • DocTruckerundefined
                                  DocTrucker @JRDM
                                  last edited by DocTrucker

                                  @jrdm perhaps because they are following recommended heating capacities and for cost reasons are sticking to 12V.

                                  Folowing the Duet docs gives over 15A for a 220mm square bed. Plenty of beds bigger than this about too. Large enough to give the 18A current limit of the Duet 2s a threat.

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_bed_heater

                                  Where has 15A come from?

                                  Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                                  • JRDMundefined
                                    JRDM @DocTrucker
                                    last edited by JRDM

                                    @doctrucker said in Burnin’ down the house.:

                                    @jrdm perhaps because they are following recommended heating capacities and for cost reasons are sticking to 12V.

                                    OK I thought most DC beds had switched to allowing two different voltages.

                                    Where has 15A come from?

                                    According to the Duet wiki, that's the rating of the fuse provided for protecting bed circuit. At first glance, 18A ATO fuses aren't readily available.

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                                    • DocTruckerundefined
                                      DocTrucker @JRDM
                                      last edited by

                                      @jrdm fair point! 😄 The docs I linked specified 18A, but I think not all the Duet 2s had fuses and it's the fuse holder that limits ot to 15A.

                                      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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