Another Predator

NexxCat

@Carlo
That looks pretty decent, so, hm, I wonder if I could try slicing the bed level STL for you, add in my start code and see what we get? Do you have a link for the STL?

Carlo

@NexxCat

Sorry I'm trying to find the file I downloaded is thingiverse down ? or have they done a big update ? I can't find any predator stuff.

NexxCat

@Carlo
They've been doing updates all day and have broken stuff on and off throughout... So I guess business as usual at Thingiverse?

Let me see if I can find it

EDIT: Found it, slicing it now

NexxCat

Here you go: LEVEL_TEST.gcode

Carlo

@NexxCat

I'll print that now ..Thanks.

Carlo

@NexxCat

Hi,

Ah bugger It failed

NexxCat

@Carlo
Damn =\ Well we know it can print properly in the middle, so I'm wondering if it's a issue with the bed mesh or something else. I can't help more tonight but I'll have a ponder and come back tomorrow, maybe someone else has an idea based on what we've discovered.

Carlo

@NexxCat

Thank you appreciate the help

C

Phaedrux

@Carlo sa

X0Y185Z1

Is it just me or does the bowden tube look quite taught in that photo? Is it possible that the wiring harness/bowden tube is pulling on the effector when it's at the edges?

Carlo

@Phaedrux

Hi Phaedrux,

It's not tight cabling picture above a bit deceptive ..

Thanks

Phaedrux

I still think the bowden tube looks taught, but you're the one with eye balls in the room.

Carlo

@Phaedrux

Hi,

The extruder is suspended via springs so the bowden will flex as the effector moves but this is the standard setup for this printer and the same setup which prints with the original board .i.e. it's not stopping the nozzle from reaching the extremities of the bed infact the bowden is longer than the standard supplied bowden as I didn't like it flashing the trigger on movement now it doesn't flash unless it's probing.
I have also probed without the bowden or filament attached with no more success than I have now.
Hope that explains it.

Thanks
C

Carlo

@Carlo

I put my nimble V2 back on hoping for better luck....nope exactly the same and I've tried well basically all trigger heights with no joy.....I previously asked if it could be sent back the board and effector (refuse to call it smart at this point)to be tested but never received a response ?
As a few people on these forums have this very setup working but no matter what I try I get the same result even when the kind forum users with this very setup slice files and offer settings that they themselves use successfully on the same machine yet I get no change what so ever....everything on this machine is new and the only part that does change and succeed in printing is removing the Duet2 and slapping in the original board.....what does that say ?

Cheers
C nimble v2.jpg

droftarts

@Carlo Sorry this has been such a frustrating experience for you. When you swapped the original board back in, did you also put the original effector back on, or did it use the smart effector? If you used the original effector (and presumably original probe), can you try that with the Duet? This would at least narrow down if it's the effector or the Duet.

If you didn't swap back the effector, the only thing that I can think of is to try a 'manual' probe setup. Replace the probe type in config.g with type 0 (eg M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000), then run through a bed calibration and start a print. It should ask you to manually step the Z down at each probe point, until it touches the bed (use a thin piece of paper, babystep the Z down until it just grabs the paper under the nozzle). You may want to reduce the number of probe points!

Then proceed to run a print in the normal way. If you home and do G30 to set Z height, it should ask you to manually do that, too.

Ian

dc42

@Carlo said in Another Predator:

This is the result I think everyone looks and thinks it's too far from the bed but it's not actually completing the print move it's changing direction before it should in the picture you can see where the print does a U turn on it's self so it never joins the print together it just doesn't complete the move almost like the radius is wrong like the circle is smaller than it is I'm watching it and it does not complete the circles or arcs it never makes it to the end it changes direction and doesn't go back to finish it.

If you are still having this problem, can you post a video of it printing, to show what you mean?

What filament are you using, what is the bed surface, and what bed temperature?

Carlo

@droftarts

Hi Ian,

Not your fault I appreciate all the help everyone has offered ...still hoping its my fault.
I did do a manual probe as suggested didn't make any difference.

Manual probe.jpg

@dc42 said in Another Predator:

Hi dc

If you are still having this problem, can you post a video of it printing, to show what you mean?Yes still having the same problem.

What filament are you using, what is the bed surface, and what bed temperature?Ultrabase PLA 70c.

I have shot a video just now but error can't upload due to being over permitted size.

Cheers
C

Phaedrux

@Carlo said in Another Predator:

can't upload due to being over permitted size.

Would need to host it on something like dropbox or google drive or even youtube or vimeo.

Carlo

@Phaedrux

No worries thanks

Link below

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rd_xZ5KSlHqUiM8DExCabhpIQD18Y5gk

Cheers
C

Phaedrux

It doesn't look like you're doing a single G30 before the start of the print. I'm not really familiar with the delta calibration to know if that's still required or not.

Danal

It is not absolutely required; however, a G32 with a bed.g that does 6 or 8 factor calibration is a best practice.

My bed.g

; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
; 16 points, 8 factors, probing radius: 280, probe offset (0, 0)
G28
M106 P1 S0
G30 P0 X0.00 Y280.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P1 X140.00 Y242.49 Z-99999 H0
G30 P2 X242.49 Y140.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P3 X280.00 Y0.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P4 X242.49 Y-140.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P5 X140.00 Y-242.49 Z-99999 H0
G30 P6 X0.00 Y-280.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P7 X-140.00 Y-242.49 Z-99999 H0
G30 P8 X-242.49 Y-140.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P9 X-280.00 Y-0.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P10 X-242.49 Y140.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P11 X-140.00 Y242.49 Z-99999 H0
G30 P12 X0.00 Y140.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P13 X121.24 Y-70.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P14 X-121.24 Y-70.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S8
G29 S1
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T40

The M106 turn the hot end fan off and back on. It shakes too much and false triggers the smart effector, if it runs during probing.

My start Gcode (in the slicer)

G28 ;Home
G32
G1 Z15.0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 15mm
;Prime the extruder
G92 E0
G1 F200 E3
G92 E0