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    Leblond
    last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 18:58

    25/10/2020, 19:57:24 G32 bed probe heights: 0.192 0.195 0.190 0.192 0.192 0.192 0.190 0.190 0.190 0.190, mean 0.191, deviation from mean 0.002
    25/10/2020, 19:56:50 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.185 0.180 0.185 0.185 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.185 0.183, mean 0.183, deviation from mean 0.002
    25/10/2020, 19:56:17 G32 bed probe heights: 0.168 0.168 0.168 0.173 0.170 0.165 0.170 0.170 0.170 0.170, mean 0.169, deviation from mean 0.002
    25/10/2020, 19:55:43 M98 P"0:/macros/Calibrazione a punto singolo/Calibrazione x 10"
    G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.185 0.183 0.185 0.185 0.185 0.183 0.185 0.185 0.183, mean 0.184, deviation from mean 0.001

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      Veti
      last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:08

      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

      there are default values from the configurator.

      a quick google shows the motors seem to be 1,68 A motors

      so you are running way to little current. try 1300

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        Leblond
        last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:49

        The motors are Quimat Nema 17 Stepper Motor 1.7 A 0.59 Nm 84 oz.in 47mm

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          Veti @Leblond
          last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:51

          @Leblond said in Triangular wave and print area:

          1.7 A

          so running them at 75% rounding to nearest 100 is 1300.

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            Leblond
            last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:54

            ok I took them to 1.3 and I'm doing the test again later

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              Leblond
              last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:56

              25/10/2020, 20:56:11 G32 bed probe heights: 0.198 0.195 0.195 0.198 0.195 0.200 0.195 0.200 0.192 0.195, mean 0.196, deviation from mean 0.002
              25/10/2020, 20:55:37 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.180 0.180 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.183 0.180 0.180 0.183, mean 0.181, deviation from mean 0.001
              25/10/2020, 20:55:04 G32 bed probe heights: 0.183 0.178 0.173 0.170 0.178 0.173 0.173 0.178 0.178 0.173, mean 0.175, deviation from mean 0.004
              25/10/2020, 20:54:31 M98 P"0:/macros/Calibrazione a punto singolo/Calibrazione x 10"
              G32 bed probe heights: 0.195 0.192 0.192 0.195 0.192 0.195 0.195 0.195 0.188 0.195, mean 0.194, deviation from mean 0.002

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                Leblond
                last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 19:57

                I'm retrying cold-meshing the plate to see if we've made any improvements

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                  Leblond
                  last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 20:06

                  20x20 temperatura ambiente_secondo tentativo.jpg

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                    Leblond
                    last edited by 25 Oct 2020, 20:08

                    no improvement

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                      Veti
                      last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 05:07

                      it seems to be very consistent.

                      can you turn the glass 90 degrees?

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                        OwenD
                        last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 07:49

                        Is the X carriage on wheels?
                        I'm not familiar with the printer and can't tell from the photos I've seen,
                        Almost looks like an eccentric wheel causing the nozzle to rise & fall with each rotation

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                          Leblond
                          last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 12:13

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                            Leblond
                            last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 12:14

                            Yes, the trolley is on rails and has eccentrics

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                              peter247 @Leblond
                              last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 12:44

                              @Leblond

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                              I've had the same problem once , it was the x axis wheels and stopped the ripple with linear rails , but I guess getting better would have fixed it too.

                              Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                                Leblond @Veti
                                last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 20:56

                                @Veti yes I have already tried to rotate it 90 degrees, but no improvement

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                                  Leblond @peter247
                                  last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 20:58

                                  @peter247 in practice they had?

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator @Leblond
                                    last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 20:58

                                    @Leblond said in Triangular wave and print area:

                                    Yes, the trolley is on rails and has eccentrics

                                    I don't think he's talking about eccentric nuts to adjust wheel tension, I think he means the wheel itself may be out of round.

                                    Is the spacing between the peaks equivalent to a full rotation of the wheel?

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                                      Leblond @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 21:00

                                      @Phaedrux ok, but I tried to move it manually without the belt to see if it was free and so it was, do you think the bearings need to be changed?

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 21:54

                                        Well the real question is does mesh compensation work to produce a good first layer?

                                        Do a test print once with mesh enabled and another with it disabled. You should be able to tell if the mesh is accurate or not.

                                        bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

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                                          Leblond @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by 26 Oct 2020, 22:05

                                          @Phaedrux ok I will try in the meantime I disassembled the x axis turned the bearings
                                          "just to give it a try while I was waiting for some advice from you" and now I've reassembled it and put it back to making a cold mesh to see if anything has changed, then I'll try to print to see if the mesh works or not, tomorrow I will post the results with and without mesh, for the moment thanks @Phaedrux.

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