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    • peirofundefined
      peirof
      last edited by peirof

      Hi,

      This is something I have been observing for a long time. When I make changes to the fans, in the config.g file, they are not seen in Dwc.

      What do I have to do, so that the changes in Dwc, are seen in Dwc

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      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
        DIY-O-Sphere @peirof
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        @peirof
        Fans appear when a tool is selected.

        (UTC+1)

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Please share your config.g

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          • peirofundefined
            peirof @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @phaedrux think i have find the issue, i need 2 restarts of board, in 1 first dont detect the chages...

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            • peirofundefined
              peirof @peirof
              last edited by

              @peirof

              Well, think i have find something... i explain the process.

              01 - I have setup all 3 fans thermostatilly controlled, putting this in config.g

              Fans
              M950 F0 C"fan0"
              M106 P0 T45 H1
              M950 F1 C"fan1"
              M106 P1 T45 H1
              M950 F2 C"fan1"
              M106 P2 T45 H1
              

              02 - i have unplug al fans from board
              03 - With DWC i have raise temperature in hotend to 100º
              04 - With a multimeter, i have tested voltage in always on fans1/2... all two 24 v
              05 - With temperature of hotend around 100 degress, I have checked the voltage on the shocket fan0..., I CAN READ 24V, the fans connected here turns
              06 - With temperature of hotend around 100 degress, I have checked the voltage on the shocket fan1..., I CAN READ 20.8V, the fans connected here dont turns
              07 - With temperature of hotend around 100 degress, I have checked the voltage on the shocket fan1..., I CAN READ 0V, upsss....the fans connected here dont turns

              Well, think i have read, that in FW3, can change the funtion of a shocket...

              How could this be done?

              Could I use one of the Always Fan On, as a layer fan?
              What other connection could I use? Maybe E1 (one of the thermistors, which I don't use)

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @peirof
                last edited by

                M950 F1 C"fan1"
                M106 P1 T45 H1
                M950 F2 C"fan1"
                M106 P2 T45 H1

                Did you intend to use fan1 twice?

                @peirof said in Fans dont appear in Dwc:

                Could I use one of the Always Fan On, as a layer fan?
                What other connection could I use? Maybe E1 (one of the thermistors, which I don't use)

                Always on is always on, so it would work if you want tha part fan always on. Maybe that's ok.

                You could use a free heater pin as a fan. In the M950 where you declare the pin "fan1" use "e1heat" instead.

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                • peirofundefined
                  peirof @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux

                  eee.... where i can find doc, how to do it?

                  its strange, but thin that the socket that twrows 20,4 volts, must be turn the fan.... maybe slowy

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Has the mosfet on the fan been damaged?

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                    • peirofundefined
                      peirof @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux how i can see/check this?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Do they look like this?

                        abe7ffc1-c0a2-4e6e-91ba-855d87044c35-image.png

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_Fan_mosfet

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                        • peirofundefined
                          peirof @Phaedrux
                          last edited by peirof

                          @phaedrux

                          Seems that, no. But not sure.

                          attach photo

                          mosfets burned.jpg

                          P.D.: i am thinking, and the fan connected in Shocket FAN1, yesterday turns.... estrange... Can do more tests?

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                          • peirofundefined
                            peirof @peirof
                            last edited by

                            @peirof

                            one dude....

                            What minimum voltage does it need to turn? I say it, because perhaps a 24V fan, with a voltage of 20.4, V should rotate even if it was slower.

                            No?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @peirof
                              last edited by

                              @peirof said in Fans dont appear in Dwc:

                              No?

                              Maybe? It would depend on the fan on how it tolerated undervolting.

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                              • giostarkundefined
                                giostark @Phaedrux
                                last edited by giostark

                                @phaedrux
                                I'm using now a fan for the nozzle that is 40x40x28 , 6.8Watt and is not pwm despite is declared 6-13.8 voltage range. If I don't give the 100% it won't either spin a little.
                                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000358337229.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1af91fae2vpxjC&algo_pvid=2777b708-8377-426c-8404-8851119de85f&algo_exp_id=2777b708-8377-426c-8404-8851119de85f-5
                                It is really powerful and make a lot of loud BUT when I close the enclosure it completely disappear. (luckily)
                                Ps: I made the mode of the 12v with the LM2596 >> Zl116LUM also for make lower Ampere.
                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s214

                                Mine was fuse but not damaged ! (exteriorly)
                                https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/23594/solved-shorted-pwm-fan2

                                So basically to be sure settings are fine , the fan is good, and noting if fried.

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                                • peirofundefined
                                  peirof @giostark
                                  last edited by peirof

                                  Is this the correct configuration to use heater 01 as a fan?

                                  in this case, for thermostatic tests, then it will be per layer

                                  M950 F2 C"e1heat"
                                  M106 P2 T45 H1
                                  
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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by Phaedrux

                                    You can find all pin names here. e1heat is correct.

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_Pin_names_for_Duet_2_WiFi_Ethernet

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                                    • peirofundefined
                                      peirof @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux do it, works.... FW3 save me the ass

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @peirof
                                        last edited by

                                        @peirof said in Fans dont appear in Dwc:

                                        FW3 save me the ass

                                        We should put that on the tin.

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                                        • peirofundefined
                                          peirof @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux said in Fans dont appear in Dwc:

                                          We should put that on the tin.

                                          are you free

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