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    • 3DPMicroundefined
      3DPMicro
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      I've been working on this one for a couple months. Using Misumi LX20 actuators with 1mm lead ball screws driven by 1 amp, 1.8 nema 14's on x and y (10 kg of force) and a .9 nema 17 on the Z using 75 mm square, steel bar as the foundation. Tool is driven by a 150K RPM Nakanishi air spindle. The purpose of the build is high accuracy micro machining. I have just ran the first test part, a 9mm diameter sprocket, and it turned out phenomenal (inspecting it with a digital microscope). I plan to try some 3D contouring next and then find the limits in part sized using .5 and .25 mm end mills I have.
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      Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators
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        @3DPMicro very cool! Do you have a particular application in mind or just see how small you can go?

        www.duet3d.com

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        • 3DPMicroundefined
          3DPMicro
          last edited by 3DPMicro

          Hey Tony. The selling point for this build, to my wife, was to make custom charms (think Alex and Ani) to peddle but I was mainly thinking of 2nd ops for parts made on my Duet controlled FFF (.1 mm extrusion width squirting PEI and PEKK).
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          Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            Username checks out.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @3DPMicro
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              @3dpmicro next you need to build a tiny robot arm to lift the parts from the FFF printer to the micro mill!

              www.duet3d.com

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              • 3DPMicroundefined
                3DPMicro
                last edited by 3DPMicro

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                I was able to get the motors to run over 1200 RPM (1200 mm/m travel speed) but while using my test program they stuttered when interpolating corners below a certain radius (G2/G3) with 16x ms, interpolated. Still almost silent and smooth at 8x Ms w/o interpolation. I went all over the place with Accel, and jerk with no apparent effect on the stuttering until down, around 600 mm/m. This 2.3 mm thick part took 14 minutes using a .81 mm end mill including interpolating the 6, 1 mm mounting holes. .1 mm axial DOC and 400 mm/m feed.
                The demensions I can measure easily came out within .02 mm

                p.s. for the record i was not actually using the bathroom when I took the picture 😀

                Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                • NitroFreakundefined
                  NitroFreak @3DPMicro
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                  @3dpmicro said in Duet controlled micro mill:

                  my Duet controlled FFF (.1 mm extrusion width squirting PEI and PEKK).

                  I saw your old thread about the probing in a hot chamber.
                  How is your heated build chamber printer coming along? Can you share some pictures of that?

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                  • 3DPMicroundefined
                    3DPMicro @NitroFreak
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                    @nitrofreak The chamber is working well. 200 - 210c for Ultem 1010. The machine is an IDEX, has a fairly small work envelope of 100 mm cubed and is very stable mechanically and thermally so manual leveling is all that is needed. I would like to post pictures but decided not to until the Stratasys patent has expired. That was supposed to happen this year but could be extended. I am uncertain of the current status.

                    Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                    • 3DPMicroundefined
                      3DPMicro
                      last edited by 3DPMicro

                      My little micro Mill has been working great. No hicups other than the PanelDue touch screen not always working right (too lazy to investigate). I make high precision machined parts at my job using $500k equipment and it still amazes me how accurate and repeatable this $800 machine is. Latest project was a gift I made for my parents 50th wedding anniversary. Using a 20 deg engraving bit with a .1mm tip the machine was consistently able to ablate the thin aluminum film from the backside of the mirror with only minor signs of etching the glass in a few places. This was after surfacing the spoil plate and verifying flatness within .005 mm. This tells me at least the Z is hitting the theoretical .003 mm resolution and doing it pretty darn consistently. HAMD.jpg

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                      • jens55undefined
                        jens55 @3DPMicro
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                        @3DPMicro said in Duet controlled micro mill:

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                        Stunning !!!!

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                        • 3DPMicroundefined
                          3DPMicro
                          last edited by 3DPMicro

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                          Pull-pull control horns machined from glass composite sheet on my micro mill. Concept to finished parts in less than an hour
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                          Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                          • 3DPMicroundefined
                            3DPMicro
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                            Triskele charm for my lovely wife. Machined on the Duet Micro Mill of course
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                            Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                            • JoergS5undefined
                              JoergS5 @3DPMicro
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                              @3DPMicro said in Duet controlled micro mill:

                              ...not to until the Stratasys patent has expired. That was supposed to happen this year but could be extended. I am uncertain of the current status.

                              You have a great mill, you motivate me to build one too. Very nice!

                              The patent you mentioned expires Feb 2021 and was discussed in https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/d1bxy4/did_the_heated_build_chamber_patent_just_get_a/

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                              • 3DPMicroundefined
                                3DPMicro @JoergS5
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                                JoergS5,
                                Thanks for the info on the patent.
                                How big are you going to build your mill?

                                Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                                • JoergS5undefined
                                  JoergS5 @3DPMicro
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                                  @3DPMicro It's in the idea project phase, so no detailed plans yet. But my highest priority will be precision with a small build space (maybe 50 mm in each direction).

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                                  • JoergS5undefined
                                    JoergS5 @3DPMicro
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                                    @3DPMicro My special interest would be to mill small parts like

                                    • nozzles like matchless nozzles or SuperVolcano and hotends/heatbreaks for them
                                    • milling tools/cutters for bigger wood or metal CNC spindles
                                    • bigger parts like harmonic drive splines
                                    • producing ball bearing DIY would be nice too (just for fun)
                                    • parts for my Märklin Z trains (they are 1:220 train models)

                                    My general tought is to combine addititive with subtractive manufacturing and make a quality iteration: e.g. 3D print/metal casting/injection molding, then finish by routing/honing/sandblasting. Control product by comparing with the original model and iterate until the goal is reached.

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                                    • 3DPMicroundefined
                                      3DPMicro @JoergS5
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                                      @JoergS5 it's ,for sure, a good thing we have the Duet along with the work of David and Tony (and whoever else contributes). Now our imaginations aren't so much constrained by money. With the 2 and now the Duet 3 the sky is the limit on functions. Sounds like many of your projects will require turning as well as 4th axis milling. I'm in the process of retrofitting a pretty good-sized manual lathe to CNC using a Duet 2.

                                      Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                                      • JoergS5undefined
                                        JoergS5 @3DPMicro
                                        last edited by JoergS5

                                        @3DPMicro Would be nice if you create threads about your lathe rebuild here also, as I am sure you have a lot of experience with precision production.

                                        I agree that the Duets are great. I bought them primarily not because of the properties of the board, but because of the good support of firmware and nice, friendly, helpful forum.

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                                        • 3DPMicroundefined
                                          3DPMicro @JoergS5
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                                          @JoergS5 said in Duet controlled micro mill:

                                          @3DPMicro Would be nice if you create threads about your lathe rebuild here also, as I am sure you have a lot of experience with precision production.

                                          I agree that the Duets are great. I bought them primarily not because of the properties of the board, but because of the good support of firmware and nice, friendly, helpful forum.

                                          I will probably do something similar with the lathe as I have done here with the mill. There doesn't appear to be much in the way of Duet controlled lathes so maybe I will be a bit more thorough with the steps involved. Should be relatively simple since it's only 2 axis but live tooling and/or tool changes will be something I want to incorporate

                                          Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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                                          • kzamaniundefined
                                            kzamani
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                                            @3DPMicro This build looks really great! Is there any chance I could take a peak at a BOM or exploded view? I've been wanting to build something like this for machining watch cases / main plates but I haven't found the time.

                                            Thanks!
                                            -k

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