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    • apex2011undefined
      apex2011
      last edited by

      Hey Everyone,
      I’ve been struggling for quite a while to get a hood print since upgrading to the Duet 2 Maestro. I have leveled my bed before each print, tried adjusting the temp from 190-230 in 5 degree increments, adjusted fan speed and feed rate. I’ve basically tried everything I know for this issue so, I’m reaching out to the forum to see if anyone has any suggestions...I feel like it’s something dumb that I am missing.

      Here is an example of what I have been getting

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      • apex2011undefined
        apex2011
        last edited by

        Sorry, here's the picture

        print.JPG

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        • percarundefined
          percar
          last edited by

          What material are you using?
          What slicer are you using?
          Have you calibrated your extruder so that you are getting the proper steps per mm
          It appears that you are not getting proper extrusion maybe some slippage, or some blockage in the extruder.

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          • apex2011undefined
            apex2011
            last edited by

            Material is Premium PLA Print temp 190-230
            Slicer is Simplify 3D

            I have calibrated the extruder but it was a little while ago so I will do it again

            Thank you!

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              What printer is it? It looks like maybe an ender 3. Have you seen this guide series? It goes through setup and calibration, etc. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+1:+Wiring/37

              We'd need to see your config.g and print settings to have a more educated guess.

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              • Corexyundefined
                Corexy
                last edited by

                If nothings blocked or the extruder gear isn't skipping, you are at best under extruding massively.

                I'd try calibrating the extruder esteps at 205degC for that material with a fresh nozzle fitted, any listen for any clicking or bad behavior from the extruder while doing it.

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                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators @apex2011
                  last edited by

                  @apex2011 Post your config.g, also send M115 and post response. A little information about your machine may be helpful too. Is the print a test cube? Could be that you have the Z steps per mm set wrong.

                  Ian

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                  • CaiJonasundefined
                    CaiJonas
                    last edited by

                    do the auto pid tuning

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                    • Kajundefined
                      Kaj
                      last edited by

                      Is it set to the correct filament diameter on the slicer?

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                      • apex2011undefined
                        apex2011
                        last edited by

                        Sorry for the late replies. I have attached my config.g

                        Printer is an Ender 3. the print is a test cube

                        slicer settings are:
                        Nozzle Diameter 0.40
                        Extrusion multiplier 0.90
                        retraction 4mm
                        retraction speed 2400mm/min
                        extruder temp 230
                        bed temp 60
                        Fan Speed 0 first layer 80 for the rest

                        M115 response FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 Maestro FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.03 ELECTRONICS: Duet Maestro 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-06-13b2

                        config.g

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                        • apex2011undefined
                          apex2011 @CaiJonas
                          last edited by

                          @CaiJonas I have done auto pid tuning but will try it again

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                          • jens55undefined
                            jens55
                            last edited by jens55

                            Extrusion multiplier should be around 1.0
                            from config.g:
                            I am not familiar with an ender 3 but the following thoughts are based on a Creality CR10
                            M92 should have an E value of around 100 unless you have a reduction gear extruder in which case it should be around 400.
                            Motor current seems a bit low but should work.
                            Edit:
                            I suspect that you re way too high on your steps per mm and the extruder is grinding your filament like there is no tomorrow. Every once in a while it catches and moves the filament forward a bit.

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                            • droftartsundefined
                              droftarts administrators @jens55
                              last edited by

                              @jens55 said in Terrible print:

                              I suspect that you re way too high on your steps per mm and the extruder

                              He's got x128 microstepping set for E, so 769 / 8 and you get 96. Also mentioned here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+2:+Configuration/38#s128

                              @apex2011 The way your print looks thinner as it goes up just makes me think the Z is moving too far. Can you shut me up by moving Z to 0, then move it up 10mm, and measuring how far it has moved up?!

                              Ian

                              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                              • apex2011undefined
                                apex2011 @droftarts
                                last edited by

                                @droftarts please correct me if I misunderstood but I homed my Z axis and then moved up 10mm. I measured approx 9.98mm from Z home location
                                .

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @apex2011
                                  last edited by

                                  @apex2011 said in Terrible print:

                                  @droftarts please correct me if I misunderstood but I homed my Z axis and then moved up 10mm. I measured approx 9.98mm from Z home location
                                  .

                                  Thanks for checking! That seems correct. Would seem to be extrusion related, then.

                                  Ian

                                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    • How fast are you trying to print that cube?
                                    • Tangled filament path?
                                    • Clogged nozzle?
                                    • Loose pinch idler on the extruder?

                                    Those would be my guesses.

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                                    • apex2011undefined
                                      apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux here are the print speeds f9d22d33-0738-42e1-a2ac-36b524fed9d8-image.png

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        So definitely not too fast.

                                        If you tell the hotend to extrude into free air, does it come out smoothly?

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                                        • apex2011undefined
                                          apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux yes, it looks like it comes out nice and smooth, no skipping on the gear either.

                                          I had a VERY small step in the right direction by going through the entire setup process again. The print is still terrible....just a little less terrible lol

                                          fcf17a04-2e72-4732-9c0b-b18d5a8d54eb-image.png

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                                          • droftartsundefined
                                            droftarts administrators @apex2011
                                            last edited by

                                            @apex2011 Can you post the gcode file you're trying to print?

                                            Ian

                                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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